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Ethan bear got traded

Created by: Rightwing513
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 28, 2022
Published: Oct. 28, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Carolina Hurricanes
Trades
CAR
  1. 2023 5th round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Bear, Ethan
  2. Pederson, Lane
Additional Details:
18% retention
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Ethan Bear: $400,000 (18%)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$73,879,417$112,500$1,000,000$8,620,583
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Svechnikov, Andrei
$7,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 7
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Aho, Sebastian
$8,460,250
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Teräväinen, Teuvo
$5,400,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Martinook, Jordan
$1,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Staal, Jordan
$6,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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Necas, Martin
$3,000,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
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Stastny, Paul
$1,500,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
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Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$4,820,000
C
UFA - 8
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Fast, Jesper
$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Stepan, Derek
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Kase, Ondrej
$1,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Jarvis, Seth
$894,167
RW
RFA - 2
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Noesen, Stefan
$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Slavin, Jaccob
$5,300,000
LD
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UFA - 3
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Burns, Brent
$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Andersen, Frederik
$4,500,000
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UFA - 1
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Skjei, Brady
$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Pesce, Brett
$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Raanta, Antti
$2,000,000
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UFA - 1
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De Haan, Calvin
$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Chatfield, Jalen
$762,500
RD
UFA - 2
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Coghlan, Dylan
$762,500
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Pacioretty, Max
$7,000,000
LW
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UFA - 1
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Gardiner, Jake
$4,050,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Oct. 28, 2022 at 3:09 p.m.
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Canes will have $5.5m of cap space (including LTIR salary pool) for trades now. This would be even with Patches back
Oct. 28, 2022 at 3:54 p.m.
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But I thought young top 4RHD were extremely valuable, and Bear was being scratched for trade protection
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Oct. 28, 2022 at 3:55 p.m.
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And he didn’t cost the 2nd round pick that many Canes fans kept saying it would cost

Guys like Canoas were WAY off 🤣🤣🤣
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Oct. 28, 2022 at 3:59 p.m.
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"Quoting: Caniac2000
He's being trade protected, why would you play a guy that wants out when you are carrying 7 other D men and can protect him? It makes no sense unless you get plagued by injuries. Come to terms with that, it's a fact. It's asset management.

Nah, I think after an injury like that and long term covid, you let him rest and don't expose him to reinjuring that ankle and lowering his trade value even more.

Interesting, you should look at the game logs from the start of last year when he played with Slavin"


"K let me know when you get assets for your prized possession that is so special we must not play him. I'll be waiting.

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My bad @caniac2000 I'm ready to admit I was wrong. Bear did have value as long as there was some salary retention and an AHL/NHL tweener attached to him.
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Oct. 28, 2022 at 4:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
Canes will have $5.5m of cap space (including LTIR salary pool) for trades now. This would be even with Patches back


Wait really? Don't really know how all the LTIR relief stuff works for when someone comes off of it.
Oct. 28, 2022 at 4:04 p.m.
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There is a reason Patches wasn’t on LTIR on the start of the season. Canes have an upper limit of close to $86m

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Wait really? Don't really know how all the LTIR relief stuff works for when someone comes off of it.
Oct. 28, 2022 at 4:37 p.m.
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Quoting: fullblowncaniac90
Wait really? Don't really know how all the LTIR relief stuff works for when someone comes off of it.


yes but it is a fallacy since Patches will need 7 million of it.
Oct. 28, 2022 at 4:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Mediumyeet
"Quoting: Caniac2000
He's being trade protected, why would you play a guy that wants out when you are carrying 7 other D men and can protect him? It makes no sense unless you get plagued by injuries. Come to terms with that, it's a fact. It's asset management.

Nah, I think after an injury like that and long term covid, you let him rest and don't expose him to reinjuring that ankle and lowering his trade value even more.

Interesting, you should look at the game logs from the start of last year when he played with Slavin"


"K let me know when you get assets for your prized possession that is so special we must not play him. I'll be waiting.

Cheers."


My bad caniac2000 I'm ready to admit I was wrong. Bear did have value as long as there was some salary retention and an AHL/NHL tweener attached to him.


taking anything he says as even close to accurate is the first issue.
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Oct. 28, 2022 at 8:15 p.m.
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So it turns out to be a salary dump for the Canes. Can't complain. I never liked taking back Pederson in the Burns trade. Didn't think they would be able to get rid of him. Nice to move him out in the same play. This frees up some cap. All good.
Oct. 29, 2022 at 1:44 a.m.
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So it turns out to be a salary dump for the Canes. Can't complain. I never liked taking back Pederson in the Burns trade. Didn't think they would be able to get rid of him. Nice to move him out in the same play. This frees up some cap. All good.


Odd take being upset about having an additional AHL body that has been relatively effective at that level and is on a two way deal but to each their own I guess.
Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:26 a.m.
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Lane Pederson is now on a one-way deal. Canes just managed to waive him and bury it in the AHL. Not sure how 'relatively effective' at that level means anything when you're crap at the next level, but yes each to his own. Playoff team. Non playoff team. We're all a little different I guess.
Oct. 29, 2022 at 1:31 p.m.
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Quoting: InRodWeTrust
Lane Pederson is now on a one-way deal. Canes just managed to waive him and bury it in the AHL. Not sure how 'relatively effective' at that level means anything when you're crap at the next level, but yes each to his own. Playoff team. Non playoff team. We're all a little different I guess.


Ahhh you're right he is on a one-way now. That makes more sense why he was involved in the deal. I'm sure Waddell didn't love paying him 750k to play in the AHL. Canucks taking that contract was probably the concession for retaining on Bears salary.
 
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