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Using yesterdays Ethan Bear trade as a template for acquiring Sean Walker

Created by: sensonfire
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 29, 2022
Published: Oct. 29, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Walker, Sean ($850,000 retained)
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The Kings have too many NHL quality RDs on their roster and Ottawa has too few.


Sean Walker appears to be the odd man out with guys like Sean Durzi, Matt Roy and Brandt Clarke all having secured roster spots.


We just lost Zub to injury and we urgently need a replacement to stay competitive.


And we need to keep Zaitsev out of the lineup for as long as possible.
LAK
  1. 2023 5th round pick (OTT)
2.
OTT
    Why might a trade for Sean Walker be similar to the one for Ethan Bear?
    LAK
      1. They are both Canadian


      2. They are both have the same height and weight


      3. They are both in their mid-20s


      4. They are both defensively-minded depth defensemen that can play on your second penalty-killing unit.



      5. Both of their cap hits are under 3 million.



      6. They are both healthy scratches and the odd man out for their respective teams.


      7. They both need a new team to play for.


      8. Neither of them have ever been placed on waivers


      9. Neither Bear nor Walker are rentals


      10. Bear was just traded with retention for a 5th round pick yesterday to a team that needs help on RD.
      Buyouts
      • Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
      • Colin White: $875,000
      • Michael Del Zotto: $500,000
      • Dion Phaneuf: $354,167
      Retained Salary Transactions
      • Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2023
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      2024
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      2025
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      23$82,500,000$80,944,048$0$4,025,000$1,555,952
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
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      Tkachuk, Brady
      $8,205,714
      LW
      UFA - 6
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      Stützle, Tim
      $925,000
      C
      UFA - 1
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      Batherson, Drake
      $4,975,000
      RW
      UFA - 5
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      DeBrincat, Alex
      $6,400,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 1
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      Brassard, Derick
      $750,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 1
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      Giroux, Claude
      $6,500,000
      RW, C
      NMC
      UFA - 3
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      Motte, Tyler
      $1,350,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
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      Pinto, Shane
      $925,000
      C
      RFA - 1
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      Joseph, Mathieu
      $2,950,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 4
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      Kelly, Parker
      $762,500
      C, LW
      RFA - 2
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      Kastelic, Mark
      $821,667
      C
      RFA - 1
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      Watson, Austin
      $1,500,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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      Chabot, Thomas
      $8,000,000
      LD
      UFA - 6
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      Walker, Sean
      $1,800,000
      RD
      UFA - 2
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      Forsberg, Anton
      $2,750,000
      G
      UFA - 3
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      Sanderson, Jake
      $925,000
      LD
      RFA - 2
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      Hamonic, Travis
      $3,000,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
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      Hellberg, Magnus
      $750,000
      G
      UFA - 1
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      Holden, Nick
      $1,300,000
      LD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
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      Brännström, Erik
      $900,000
      LD/RD
      RFA - 1
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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      Zaitsev, Nikita
      $4,500,000
      RD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
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      Norris, Joshua
      $7,950,000
      C
      UFA - 8
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      Gambrell, Dylan
      $950,000
      C
      RFA - 1
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      Talbot, Cam
      $3,666,667
      G
      UFA - 1
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      Heatherington, Dillon
      $762,500
      LD
      UFA - 2
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      Zub, Artem
      $2,500,000
      RD
      UFA - 1

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      Oct. 29, 2022 at 4:07 p.m.
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      They are not the same player. You can't templet a steady defensive responsible player, that you will give top 2 min, a 5th. With a player that isn't even close in Bear.
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      Oct. 29, 2022 at 4:07 p.m.
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      1 and 2 are so incredibly irrelevant
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      Oct. 29, 2022 at 4:08 p.m.
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      Sean Walker is better than Bear, and LA doesn't need the cap space
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      Oct. 29, 2022 at 4:08 p.m.
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      Okay now that that is out of the way the difference is, walker is still a fine defenseman
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      Oct. 29, 2022 at 4:08 p.m.
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      Quoting: AG_sweden
      They are not the same player. You can't templet a steady defensive responsible player, that you will give top 2 min, a 5th. With a player that isn't even close in Bear.


      I don’t think anyone will say Walker is a top 4Dman . He’s a #5 rn who has struggled since coming back.
      Oct. 29, 2022 at 4:08 p.m.
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      Edited Oct. 29, 2022 at 4:16 p.m.
      Major difference is bear and his camp were able to go out and look for a trade at the start of the offseason and no team was willing to trade for him

      Need for Canucks finally was enough for them pull the trigger





      When he’s been available for 4 months, the value will be low of there is no demand
      Oct. 29, 2022 at 4:09 p.m.
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      Agreed. And wasn't just a 5th involved with Bear. Canes also "got" to unload a contract as part of the deal.
      Oct. 29, 2022 at 4:17 p.m.
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      I don’t think anyone will say Walker is a top 4Dman . He’s a #5 rn who has struggled since coming back.


      I didn't say he was top 4 or top 2, the person made this trade proposal put him there in that position.
      I said Bear isn't close to Walker and I standby that statement.
      hence not something to base a templet on.
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      Oct. 29, 2022 at 6:39 p.m.
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      Bear was traded since he wasn’t playing well. Walker would be traded because the kids are playing well. Seems like a different situation, but I understand the comp.

      Why not play JBD and Lassi?
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      Oct. 29, 2022 at 7:07 p.m.
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      Quoting: NHLfan10506
      Bear was traded since he wasn’t playing well. Walker would be traded because the kids are playing well. Seems like a different situation, but I understand the comp.

      Why not play JBD and Lassi?


      I suppose neither JBD nor Lassi are NHL ready yet.

      Also, Coach DJ has a bit of a soft spot for birthday boy Nikita Yikes-ev.

      They have a history together going back to their days with the Leafs.

      It is what it is.
      Oct. 29, 2022 at 8:59 p.m.
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      Quoting: csick
      I don’t think anyone will say Walker is a top 4Dman . He’s a #5 rn who has struggled since coming back.


      Walker hasn't been struggling. He's been scratched because the Kings wanted to take a look at Clarke. Clarke only gets one more game before they have to make a decision on him for the year, and it sounds like they're leaning towards sending him back to junior. Once that happens, Walker will be a mainstay in the lineup again.
      Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:47 p.m.
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      Ethan Bear is to Sean Walker as Vancouver's 2023 fifth-round draft pick is to your 2023 second-round draft pick. We'll even throw in our 2023 fifth to fill the hole in your dance card.
       
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