Only the other is better than Olofsson in everything else. Olofsson is a physical player or maybe he is great defensively or a great playmaker? No. He's a one-dimensional shooter who's been mostly only PP threat for almost his entire career. You like Olofsson, ok, I'll take him out, but we need a player like Meier.

Umm, yea. That is his value. I forgot when scoring goals went out of fashion.

Great, keeping him,, but we also need changes.

You do understand that Olofsson has 64G and 73A...how is that one-dimensional?
He has 35EV goals and 29 PP goals.
He has 53EV assists and 19 PP assists.

Seems to me he scores more EV strength.

You have a false narrative in your head.

I don't agree, of course he gets some assists like other forwards, but he's not a great playmaker. It is also very soft and does little to help with defense. I don't know why I keep repeating this when you keep telling me what a great player he is. But you don't see the rest of the picture.

It's a useless controversy and we're getting nowhere. I will still be sure that Meier is better than Olofsson and he is a more versatile player, and you will still tell me about statistics that may simply not reflect the whole picture.

This is not the play of a one-dimensioal player: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJwdVF1GFSk

Perfectly made the play to set himself up for a goal. Power was amazing on that play...but it doesn't happen without Olofsson's takeaway, pass and goal.

Oh and by the way, we were losing 3-2 until that play....yea baby.

Does he do this regularly? No, that's all. One video won't change that or two videos. A large sample is important. Meier > Olofsson

Sorry but that isn't getting Timo. It would take Peterka not Rosen

Not a chance in hell that BUF is trading Peterka.

IDK why everyone is so obsessed with Meier, the Sabres need to fix their D core, their forward group has been fine

Because he is a great player and what we need. Our attack is too soft, Dahlin and Thompson are hit, no one helps, few hits, little toughness and aggressiveness. Adams assembled a skilful, but very soft team. When they lose 1-4 at home to Arizona, the offense is out of order, and I've already counted 3-4 games this season where the offense looked like ****.

I agree we need a top 4 RD first, but I also want them to add some physical forwards.

Does the d core need fixing? They need to get healthy, and if Lyubushkin is really only a 3rd pair right d, I wouldn't hate replacing jokiharju with a physical, defensive second pair right d. Those are more wish list things right now. I expect that the Sabres will do something with their forwards, they could be more physical, but that's pretty much all of them. Statistically, one of Krebs, Quinn, peterka isn't going to pop. Nobody ever wants to move shiny new toys though.

That's why I trade for Peeke, he is an improved version of Lyubushkin. But I think the attack also needs changes. You can see my answer Shibbal18.

Peeke just signed an extension 6 weeks ago. Columbus isn't going to trade him unless you massively overpay - he's a solid top 4 D locked in at a sub-$3M AAV through 2026. Mittlestadt & a 2nd is an incredibly easy pass for them, considering they have a pretty locked in depth chart at C - Boone Jenner, Jack Roslovic, Cole Sillinger, & Sean Kuraly, with Kent Johnson playing on the wing until a spot potentially opens up. If they're adding a center, it's going to be a bona fide 1C - and Mittelstadt isn't that.

I think it definitely needs better depth, Pilut has been sheltered and is still hit or miss, Clague is surprisingly not terrible, and I like Fitzgerald buts he's been bad. I think they can upgrade Jokiharju and if Jokiharju is their 7th dman for a year we may be in better shape. But I think, like with Mittlestadt, Granato and Adams have their boys that theyre going to stick with no matter how bad theyre playing.



I dont think it was really the forwards, the Arizona game they lacked finish and were gripping their sticks, that game was awful all around, but Tampa and Carolina dictated the games and I think that had more to do with the Ds inability of winning the puck and when they did win them they would dump and change because they had used up all their energy getting it out. Meier is a nice to have but I think hes a shiny distraction rn. I of course, 1000% agree theyre too soft, Buffalo always seems to be stuck with the GM that thinks theyre being progressive by ditching the enforcer for an all skill team, and they always get beat down. This is going back to Lucic hitting Miller era. They need to embrace that the role of enforcer isnt going away, its evolving. especially when they get to the post season

Absolutely, we have a very soft team. Imagine for a moment that Edmonton's Kailer Yamamoto was our most physical forward this season. This is ridiculous. He's hits more this season than any of our forwards.

In fact, it doesn’t have to be Meier, he probably won’t be cheap and there may be problems with a new contract, he’s just a legit top 6 forward in his prime, who would add not only hits to the team, but also points.

Other players who can play the physical game, some are 4Cs or third laners, some may need a change of scenery, obviously there are cheap options:

C - Pageau, Acciari, Laughton, Rasmussen, Kuraly, Barbashev, Sturm

LW - Meier, Zucker, Ritchie, Trenin, Foegele, Comtois, Dube, Jones, Wood

RW - Jeannot, Grundstrom, PoolParty, Kunin, Crouse, Anderson, Fischer, Raddysh, Lafferty, Yamamoto, Kapanen

RD options: Parayko, Peeke, Pionk, Roy, Dumba, Murphy, Mayfield, Fabbro, Durzi, DeMelo, Walker, Schenn

Then don't expect to get a star top six forward lol

He thinks Olofsson is better than Meier.

Never said that. Called them basically equal. Which they are.

That's cute.

Haha ok kiddo

Don't need a star top-6 F....BUF is 3rd in the league in GF. I wouldn't trade Peterka for Meier straight up.

Unlike some people that have reading comprehension issues, I would trade Olofsson for Meier.

Wow. People really disvalue goals. One player has 9...the other has 5. Sure Meier is more physical...but Olofsson is more finesse. Meier takes a lot of penalties. Olofsson takes basically zero.

Last 41GP:

Player 1: 60th in the league in points with 22G 13A
Player 2: 67th in the league with 16G 18A.

This is a good example of what happens when you cherry pick stats to make an argument but don't actually watch the players you're talking about

If you did watch SJ games you'd know Meier drives so much of their play even when he's not scoring. He's making tons of scoring chances for either himself (tons of shots) or others. He's also a power forward and does a lot more than just scoring. They're different types of players and Meier has much more value if you consider the whole package.

Interesting ideas, but you’re paying a bit much in these trades

And Olofsson & Meier are fairly comparable