absolutely not, this is just flat out awful for the avs

ROFLMAO at that trade. You ain't getting Newhook for Monahan. End of.

I am not sure he knows who alex Newhook is....considering he then trades him for a pair of late 2nds

So tell me why the Leafs are paying a first? Edmundson has no value, he's a cap dump at best

More like "Forfeit for Fantilli"

They need somene to replace Muzzin now, not at the deadline.

literally what has Monahan done to warrant that return

Yah but Edmundson doesn't net the Habs a first

Ya can count the oilers safely out on that one.

Anderson is still a negative asset man that contract isn't gonna get any better

Easy , Trade Jake Allen.
Monty has better numbers as Back up and even not bad invidual numbers as starter.
But the teams win loss rate's are drastically different .

Jakes Allen wins about 60-70% of games are a starter
Montembeault is more like 30% and before MSL last year was 1-7-2 last year
He got better under MSL but the reality is he's not built for starting 4-5 games in a row .

From a Forward and Defensive POV as long as Suzuki, Caufield ,Dach, Ghule and Xhekaj have a breathe in their bodies they'll be winning us games we shouldnt.
That is unless its outta their control and its a Goalie issue then there's nothing they can do but out score the opponents .
No Allen , No Chance as seen last year.
Without Price we werent Contenders for SCF return but without Allen we werent a playoff team

Elliotte Friedman i trust more then people without a track record of being right.
He says that's simply untrue and atleast 4 teams are in on the Anderson Market over 2 seasons now.
EDM,TML,NYI and now CGY have all been confirmed as kicking the tires on Anderson trying to make a deal work.

Not a huge market on him due to the factors you listed
But there's always a Market for Power Forwards who can score goals.
I mean Kevin Hayes is my favorite example as everyone says they wouldnt trade for him before this hot start they were adament about it.
People were still in on him because Power Forwards like him create room and force coaches more often then not to assign multiple guys to defend against.
If Power forwards were a Chess Piece they'd be The Queen as they're so rare and versitile their value stands out above the rest.

Any Position you name if you Add that kinda size and skill its coveted and of value.
Its why talented Giants like Chara , Burns,Edmundston , Hedman , ext all get the pick of the NHL teams when it comes to these big buggers who can move on Defense.
In the Net the bigger the goalie the more net he covers but when they move like Vasilevksy ,Bishop or Price that's a who other level .
Whether its Power Forwards,Giant Puck Moving D or Extremely Athletic Big Men in the Net players with Size and skill regarldess of contract always have a home in the NHL as long as they can play.


Most important to note is that everyone who plays with him succeeds.
Caufields 16 goals and 25 points in 21 games came only after Anderson joined his line day 1 under MSL.
Since then they've found an upgrade on Anderson as a Power Forward to fill that role so he was with Dvorak -Gally.
Gally's been productive and Dvorak had a hat trick.

His Physicality creates room for you to move like a Rodeo Clown he plays a role so others can Succeed.
Put him beside players who are established and not where he's playing the Veteran Mentor and maybe there's more potential in Anderson.
VGK for Karlsson i see being a good swap for both teams and players

The factors you listed are true but power forwards are very slippery slope

They can be huge difference makers like Dustin Brown during the kings cup runs or even guys like Ovi his whole career but with that being said they can fall off a cliff meaning have a ton of money tied up long term to them could be a crucial mistake

Guys like Dustin Penner or Milan Lucic who used to be those guys have all been payed a ton and fallen off a cliff once aged. Yes Anderson is great now but this seems to be the peak and there is a large market for him with other teams but personally I don't see why Edmonton should even want him at this point (though I understand why other teams who lack physicality with young talent would cough* cough* New Jersey) Edmonton has a terrible history with overpaying power forwards who fall off a cliff outta nowhere (Lucic, Neal, Penner, Kassian I mean the list goes on and on) There is no reason we should take on that risk when we already have enough physicality on the offence. Yes I undertand he is a solid piece for a young team needing a veteran presence to create room for those young offensive stars to blossom but Edmonton is arguably the last destination he should go to which is insane why Kenny wants him

I don't hate the guy as a player he's def valuable in a top 6 I just hate him for Edmonton.

-- I agree with so much of it. Anderson may be on the decline but he also wrestled with injuries and consistency for many of his younger years. He is so fast and so strong (and fights BTW, at one point he took on most of our Montreal's scraps) his decline will be slow and in an increasing cap market his value is not negative.

-- I love posting deals that I don't even think are that good for my team and still seeing all the pushback. This is fun. The inspiration here is to get as many picks as possible in the hopes Montreal can come out of this draft with a top 10 pick and a good goalie prospect (by trading up).

-- Monahan will be one of Montreal's most coveted assets come trade deadline. His hips and speed are where they were 4 years ago+. He is only 28. He is known to uplift any room he is in and lead by example. He has filled every hole in Montreal this year playing on almost every line at some point and sometimes not even as a center. He has been the difference maker in 2-3 games this season.

--Kent Hughes is a genius. Montreal has won the gamble they took on him. At this point I would rather have Monahan on my team than Kadri. Think about that for a second.

I'm guessing you didn't think Lehkonen was worth the return either?

Probably you said the same speech last year with Chiarot...

Edmonton declines. They re-signed Kane instead of pursuing Anderson.

LMAO. Lehkonen and Monahan are two totally different conversations.

I think most GMs would tell you they would rather have Monahan than Lekhonen right now the way he has recovered and is playing.

I think you're very much wrong there.

Didnt Ovi hit his career high for goals in his late 30's?
Kinda a bad example i think you woulda done better using Rick Nash as an example.

Dustin Brown i just disagree with he had an off year or two but he's no Quick.
Brown was the Captain and like Jumbo Joe he played Mentor to the next Generation being whatever they needed.
Jumbo Joe was one of the best Centers in the NHL there was no need for him to play wing but he did as its what the team needed.
LAK it was the same thing as they had tons of Skills and Kopitar now had the Captaincy as like Joe he swapped his C for his Successor's A.
Brown was needed as the Gritty guy who protected the youth more then he was needed to be the teams top goal scorer.
I mean Ironically his worst offensive years were during his Cup wins and Reigns.

Why did this happen to Brown?
He was a old NHL player who survive the transition to a more Speed based game.
He brought his Physicality down but it wasnt until he was under 200 hits from his average 250-300 hits a year.
That's when his offense came back as he had to put more effort into his passing skills to survive this new speed based NHL.
I watched a LAK tribute when he retired and he was talking about all the highs/lows and changes he overcame.


I mean Lucic is an overpaid but this is a case of his contract being the issue not Lucic.
Lucic will play next year and have many offers but no one will sign term and at those numbers again .
Andersons deals rough sure but so is Karlsson as he's been linked to a possible SJS deal with MTL.
There's many examples of these types of situations where MTL could still walk away with what they need.
Karlsson despite his cap i'd take in a second given our RD depth but most importantly what he'll do for Ghule moving forward.


Gallagher on the other hand is a harder sell even though he's my favorite habs he wont be as easy to maneuver into a trade.

3rd leading scorer on the Habs. 15 pts in 19 games playing mostly PK and third line. Takes all crucial faceoffs. Only 28 years old. His speed this year is incredible, he has outrun younger guys over and over, his hips are 99%. He has the best work ethic on most teams he plays on, obsessed with discipline and training. His leadership is Captain-like. Suzuki deserves his captainship, Monahan makes it a lot easier on him I'm sure. He lifts the room, without him Habs are a sub-.500 team this year.

If we don't trade him soon, we should sign him....but then we'll never get Fantilli ;-)