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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #5: Montreal’s youngster wonders

Nov. 21, 2022 at 5:38 p.m.
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A question, and also bit of a hot take.

Has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best player in the world?

Alternatively, has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best Russian player in NHL?

I think there's a debate to be had on both points.


1. No, not for a sustained period of time anyway (like not longer than a couple of weeks).
2. Yes I think that's the case, most definitely when Datsyuk started slowing down around 2010 or so.

Also, there's no need to debate here.
I'm always right about everything.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 5:52 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
A question, and also bit of a hot take.

Has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best player in the world?

Alternatively, has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best Russian player in NHL?

I think there's a debate to be had on both points.


Best player? Nawh probably not
Best Russian Player? Yes at certain times
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 5:53 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
A question, and also bit of a hot take.

Has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best player in the world?

Alternatively, has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best Russian player in NHL?

I think there's a debate to be had on both points.


Ovi is a legend and easily a top 10 all-time player. Sid is the only player of the last 25 years to check more boxes than him.

Ovi was certainly the best individual player in hockey during his first 2 Hart seasons. But, winning counts for a lot and he didn't win in his 20's. Sid and Geno did.

I think an argument for Malkin being the best Russian player can be made for a couple seasons, but goal scoring always takes precedence over point totals for me.

Kucheov has probably been the best Russian skater for a number of years now.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 5:58 p.m.
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Ovi is a legend and easily a top 10 all-time player. Sid is the only player of the last 25 years to check more boxes than him.

Ovi was certainly the best individual player in hockey during his first 2 Hart seasons. But, winning counts for a lot and he didn't win in his 20's. Sid and Geno did.

I think an argument for Malkin being the best Russian player can be made for a couple seasons, but goal scoring always takes precedence over point totals for me.

Kucheov has probably been the best Russian skater for a number of years now.


Agreed. I think Datsyuk, Malkin and Kucherov have been the best Russian players in the league during their times.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 6:09 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
A question, and also bit of a hot take.

Has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best player in the world?

Alternatively, has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best Russian player in NHL?

I think there's a debate to be had on both points.


Yes, 2007-8 or whichever year he scored 65 he was the best in the world.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 6:14 p.m.
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Yes, 2007-8 or whichever year he scored 65 he was the best in the world.


Best scorer definitely, but I'd put Datsyuk as a challenger here. He was in 100 point pace and his two-way game was unparalleled.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 6:52 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
A question, and also bit of a hot take.

Has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best player in the world?

Alternatively, has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best Russian player in NHL?

I think there's a debate to be had on both points.


He's got 3 Hart and Ted Lindsay trophies, so according to both player and writers - yes.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 7:21 p.m.
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Glad to see the best player in the NHL versing Connor McDavid
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 7:56 p.m.
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Glad to see the best player in the NHL versing Connor McDavid


Last I checked, Loui Eriksson doesn’t play for the devils…
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 7:57 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
A question, and also bit of a hot take.

Has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best player in the world?

Alternatively, has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best Russian player in NHL?

I think there's a debate to be had on both points.

I was thinking about this when I was playing nhl slapshot today.

I think he was at one time the best in the world. It was always him or Crosby until mcdavid came into the league.

And yes he is the greatest Russian player of all time.


Edit. I forgot about Pavel. But he still is the best of all time Russian wise
Nov. 21, 2022 at 8:07 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
A question, and also bit of a hot take.

Has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best player in the world?

Alternatively, has Ovechkin been at any stage of his career the best Russian player in NHL?

I think there's a debate to be had on both points.


Best player in the NHL, no, best Russian, yes, in between Datsyuk and Kucherov
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 8:19 p.m.
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The idea of trading for Severson seems highly unlikely now.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 8:33 p.m.
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The idea of trading for Severson seems highly unlikely now.


Did something happen or are you just talking about the fact that the devils are on a 12 game win steal and among the best teams in the league?
Nov. 21, 2022 at 8:35 p.m.
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Did something happen or are you just talking about the fact that the devils are on a 12 game win steal and among the best teams in the league?


He scored a beauty of a goal.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 8:45 p.m.
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Stick taps for Patrice Bergeron.

Imagine how beloved that guy would be if he didn't have to overcome the Bruins hatred.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 9:25 p.m.
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Did Arizona throw Hayton into the fire too soon?
Nov. 21, 2022 at 9:36 p.m.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 9:37 p.m.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 9:45 p.m.
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Rielly going down is the last thing we need rn considering Brodie has a slow healing injury and Muzzin be out for maybe the whole season
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:13 p.m.
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They put the "Isles" in Smiles
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:14 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:25 p.m.
Leafs Kryptonite besides lottery teams is now themselves in OT

Literally how many no look giveaways was that tonight 5 (Marner and Willy need a firm talking to by the coach this is getting ridiculous)

Holy **** and its bad enough Rielly is out and Kallgren went braindead for a min we got this problem

Sure we got a point but if you cant play well 3 on 3 whats the point of making it to OT
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:26 p.m.
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Who is everyones least favorite player to ever play for your favorite team?

For Me...
Brandon Manning
Erik Gustaffson
Justin Braun

Sensing a trend while writing this
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:32 p.m.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:34 p.m.
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Sandin had ww2 flashbacks of being kneed and went nah fam. I honestly thought he just fought someone random as I didnt see Wahlstrom his Matthews lul
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:35 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
Who is everyones least favorite player to ever play for your favorite team?

For Me...
Brandon Manning
Erik Gustaffson
Justin Braun

Sensing a trend while writing this


Justin Holl
Justin Holl
Justin Holl
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