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Trying A Realistic Karlsson Trade With the Cap

Created by: bluspy88
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 16, 2022
Published: Nov. 16, 2022
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I am not trying to insult anyone here. I am just trying to explore if there is any scenario where the Senators could do this and not bungle their cap future.

This is really tough and I am not sure if it will work without the Senators losing one of DeBrincat or Zub, not to mention the resignings of Pinto, JBD, Brannstrom and Kastelic. If you include the 1M expected salary cap raise, they would have a little under 16M for next year. I suppose you could move out like Joseph but is that worth it?

I would love to see a reunion, but honestly I think they would probably have to rope in a third team somehow, and though I just estimated the pieces they'd give up, bringing another team in makes that even more complicated.
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. Abramov, Vitaly [Reserve List]
  2. Järventie, Roby
  3. Thomson, Lassi
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
  5. 2024 1st round pick (OTT)
2.
OTT
ARI
  1. Boucher, Tyler
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
  3. 2024 4th round pick (TBL)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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23$82,500,000$84,056,548$0$4,450,000-$1,556,548
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$6,400,000$6,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
C
RFA - 1
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 2
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$821,667$821,667
C, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,666,667$3,666,667
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD
UFA - 2
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 8

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Nov. 16, 2022 at 3:41 p.m.
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Sharks would probably take on Zaitzev to move one from karlsson
Nov. 16, 2022 at 3:43 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Just impossible to add him
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Nov. 16, 2022 at 3:59 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Just impossible to add him


Yeah seems to be the case
Nov. 16, 2022 at 4:00 p.m.
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Sharks would probably take on Zaitzev to move one from karlsson


Ehhh maybe I guess I did it differently because I saw another trade where people didn't like that idea, but good point
Nov. 16, 2022 at 5:41 p.m.
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This is a tough one, the problem is nobody (not even a team like ARI) can realistically retain on Karlsson because he makes so damn much AND it's a long term deal. OTT would end up having to pay out the ears just to get a third team to shave a couple mil off Karlsson's cap hit.

I'm sure SJS would be thrilled to move him, but I have no clue how that would work unless it was straight up to a team that took his whole contract.
Nov. 17, 2022 at 4:50 p.m.
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Sens can't take on Karlsson 11.5 AAV for the next 4 years


And sorry but lol, Sens won't give up their 10th OA pick from last year (even if he was a major reach) and a 4th to dump Zaitsev when they could just BUY HIM OUT in the summer for 1.67 M$ (spread over 2 years)
 
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