I know what the Sens don't want to do but if they want to make moves they are going to have to give up something.

As I said though Zaitzev was just waived and no one wanted him if he has to be added to a trade then the Sens will have to add a 1st to dump him. You are right though if a trade can be made without having to dump Zaitzev then you absolutely make that deal to avoid paying to dump him. No back to my original offer, Thompson + 2nd For Savard. There is already precedence for this, Savard 2 years ago got a 1st+ 2nd + 3rd, Chairot last year got a 1st + 3rd. Savard is 2 years older now so dropping the 3rd is reasonable and Savard plays a more valuable position than Chairot therefore his value is slightly higher. So given past precedence, including his own and the Habs needs/wants. Your options are

2023 1st + 2023 2nd for Savard (highly unlikely the Sens do that)
Thompson + 2nd for Savard
Greig + 2nd for Savard

Tell me which of the three options makes the most sense for the Sens? My guess is Thompson + 2nd, Hamonic and Zub are not being pushed out by Thompson and adding Savard to that RD stabilizes it significantly. I understand you don't want to give up top assets, especially given how bad the Sens are playing but if you want to upgrade the team you have to pay the price set by the trade partner cause you can't just trade for what you want by giving up only what you want.

Savard really shouldn’t be playing top 4 minutes at this point in his career. He’s a third pair/PK guy on any playoff team.

Agree with this, but theres just not many contenders who can afford a 3.5mil guy on their 3rd pairing, especially one who is not a UFA at the end of the season.

This is delusional. Savard might have slightly positive value at this point. Habs should offload him for some assets before his contract gets bad

Brutal trade for Ottawa, Zub > Savard

If he is on the market though Toronto should be all over this

It's not really giving Formenton up for nothing (assuming he gets cleared), they are dumping Zaitsev too, and getting Savard if they are interested in him. So whether he clears or not it's not too much. The buy out does make more sense but they might not want to do that for financial reasons.

You're absolutely right though that Hughes wouldn't be interested, unless he's willing to take Zaitsev+the 2nd for Savard straight up.

Savard is playing fine, he’s a quebecor and good mentor
Why would we trade him for bad future assets
What he brings to the team is way more valuable than a 2nd round pick

Well yeah I doubt a team offers a 2nd for him anyways

JiC is not that much of a credible source for scoops.

Like you doubt a team would offer a 2nd for Brett Kulak
Like you doubt a team would offer a 1st for Ben Chiarot
Like you doubt a team would offer a pick in the top 15 for Alex Romanov
Like you doubt a team would offer a former 1st round pick RHD and a 2nd rd pick for Arturri Lehkonen

We don’t care about your opinion because it’s not a good one

Never made any of those claims. The Chiarot return did surprise me though

Almost every MTL trade are best return than what we propose here

Zaitsev just got sent to Belleville. He will stay there until there is injuries and will be bought out this offseason, it's becoming very clear. Not point saying it what it would cost to "dump him"

It would be like saying it would cost the Habs their next 3 first round picks and then some to dump Gallagher, we know it's not going to happen, useless to even mention it



These "options" are not remotely close to being equal... The 2023 first won't stay top-5 but that pick is worth a lot no matter what. This is the best draft in a while

For Ridly Greig, you'd have to pony up something you really don't want to give like I said. Think Kaiden Ghule but the Sens don't even have a spot for him with Chabot and Sanderson

Thomson + 2nd is a bit more realistic but even then, not sure why the the Sens would pay something like this for a guy who is AT BEST a small upgrade on Travis Hamonic

Thomson has 47 pts in 92 AHL games and just turned 22 y/o not even 2 months ago. He was a 19th OA pick 3 years ago and has been on track with his development. Sens are not giving him and a 2nd for 32 y/o Savard

Habs might find a desperate GM but it won't be me (yes it could be Dorion as he's unpredictable)




Sens are not playing that badly by the way. Every single loss has been a 1 goal game (without looking at empty netters)

They have been without Formenton, Norris and Zub for the most part and now Thomas Chabot. They are still just 3 games below 0.500, have positive goal differential and pretty good advanced stats in general.

I agree with you on all the points you listed, Iam just saying from a Habs perspective there are 3 peices that would be of interest along with the 2nd. Those are 1st this year, like you said it's not going to happen with this draft class. Greig again not realistic and Thompson, unlikely but the most realistic of the 3. They are the 3 options that fill the voids for the Habs. I even agree with you that the Sens aren't as bad as their record shows (I had them finishing 3rd in the Atlantic at the beginning of the year). I was only commenting on the proposed trade and trying to make a more realistic offer. Zub isn't going anywhere, Formenton if cleared is not being traded and if not cleared is likely out of the league, so I had to add value.