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Whats the value of olofsson

Created by: mauston_atthews
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 18, 2022
Published: Nov. 18, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sabres fans are not gonna like this
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TOR
  1. Olofsson, Victor
BUF
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. Hirvonen, Roni
  3. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$82,500,000$81,273,746$212,500$0$1,226,254
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
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Olofsson, Victor
$4,750,000
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
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Holmberg, Pontus
$827,500
C
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Järnkrok, Calle
$2,100,000
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Aston-Reese, Zach
$840,630
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C
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Malgin, Denis
$750,000
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NTC
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Murray, Matt
$4,687,500
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Giordano, Mark
$800,000
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Liljegren, Timothy
$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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Samsonov, Ilya
$1,800,000
G
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Sandin, Rasmus
$1,400,000
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Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
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Benn, Jordie
$750,000
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
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Nov. 18, 2022 at 11:46 a.m.
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Sure. I'll drop him off at the peace bridge
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Nov. 18, 2022 at 11:51 a.m.
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I'd rather keep him, but the picks are probably enough
Nov. 18, 2022 at 11:52 a.m.
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Big overpay by the leafs. Olaf isnt good at what the leafs need at all
Nov. 18, 2022 at 11:53 a.m.
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Deal smile
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Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:00 p.m.
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I mean he's a pretty good steady guy but what are you really trying to accomplish here?
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Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:03 p.m.
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Leafs suck
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Big overpay by the leafs. Olaf isnt good at what the leafs need at all


The issue has been offence this season. Especially in the playoffs, the issue has been scoring at crucial times when our stars aren’t. This is a true contender move
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Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:04 p.m.
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Quoting: mauston_atthews
The issue has been offence this season. Especially in the playoffs, the issue has been scoring at crucial times when our stars aren’t. This is a true contender move


Olaf is terrible at 5v5 offense. Hes a PP merchant
Its a stupid team move
Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:04 p.m.
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The issue has been offence this season. Especially in the playoffs, the issue has been scoring at crucial times when our stars aren’t. This is a true contender move


There are better options
Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:07 p.m.
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Olaf is terrible at 5v5 offense. Hes a PP merchant
Its a stupid team move


That's not nearly as true as it used to be, but he isn't a play driver for sure
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Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.
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Leafs suck
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Olaf is terrible at 5v5 offense. Hes a PP merchant
Its a stupid team move


7 even strength goals is fine. He’s a complementary player not a driver of that line at all
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Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.
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Quoting: mauston_atthews
7 even strength goals is fine. He’s a complementary player not a driver of that line at all


Yeah, so exactly what we don't need lmao, particularly for the price youve listed

He's shooting 19% lmao. He isnt doing anything but getting lucky
Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
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That's not nearly as true as it used to be, but he isn't a play driver for sure


We dont need more passangers in our depth - particulalry at an exorbitant price
Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
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we miss leo k
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Quoting: Random2152
Olaf is terrible at 5v5 offense. Hes a PP merchant
Its a stupid team move


He's actually been pretty good 5v5 this year - positive possession numbers, and 7 of his 9 goals scored at even strength. Not saying he's a possession monster or anything, but he's actually been a more all-around player this season. Plus, as OP said, he's aiming to get an offense-first player and Olofsson still remains a very good offensive player.

That being said, I think Buffalo would say yes even if you took either Hirvonen or the 1st out. The whole package is a bit much to ask and is paying a guy based on his hot streak to open the season as opposed to what he's more likely to provide in terms of future production.
Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
He's actually been pretty good 5v5 this year - positive possession numbers, and 7 of his 9 goals scored at even strength. Not saying he's a possession monster or anything, but he's actually been a more all-around player this season. Plus, as OP said, he's aiming to get an offense-first player and Olofsson still remains a very good offensive player.

That being said, I think Buffalo would say yes even if you took either Hirvonen or the 1st out. The whole package is a bit much to ask and is paying a guy based on his hot streak to open the season as opposed to what he's more likely to provide in terms of future production.


Nah he is bad. People thinking he has changed and you look and he is shooting 19% lmao
Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
We dont need more passangers in our depth - particulalry at an exorbitant price


Just pointing out that since the start or last year he has 20 ES goals, 24 ES assists vs 9 PP goals and 5 PP assists. Calling him a PP specialist is to demonstrate you havent watched him
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Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:16 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Just pointing out that since the start or last year he has 20 ES goals, 24 ES assists vs 9 PP goals and 5 PP assists. Calling him a PP specialist is to demonstrate you havent watched him


Yeah excuse me for not taking a guy who doesnt drive play at EV and is shooting the lights out as not being good at 5v5 lol.

When his s% comes down people will realise
Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:17 p.m.
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Yeah excuse me for not taking a guy who doesnt drive play at EV and is shooting the lights out as not being good at 5v5 lol.

When his s% comes down people will realise


You called him a PP merchant and are now moving goalposts. Take the L
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Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:18 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
You called him a PP merchant and are now moving goalposts. Take the L


I never moved the goal posts. He is a PP merchant. Being on a s% bender doesnt change that
Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:20 p.m.
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I never moved the goal posts. He is a PP merchant. Being on a s% bender doesnt change that


I showed you dating back to the beginning of last year, an 89 game sample , which included a below avg shooting percentage year.

He shoots his career average he has 2 less goals and is on a 34 goal pace
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Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:21 p.m.
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we miss leo k
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Nah he is bad. People thinking he has changed and you look and he is shooting 19% lmao


(I mean if you read the second part of what I wrote I basically said the same thing and that the value is still good if you take out one of the two best assets in the deal)
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Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:23 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I showed you dating back to the beginning of last year, an 89 game sample , which included a below avg shooting percentage year.

He shoots his career average he has 2 less goals and is on a 34 goal pace


And hes been a passenger while doing it. Empty calorie ****. Late stage mike hoffman type player. Worthless
Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:23 p.m.
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(I mean if you read the second part of what I wrote I basically said the same thing and that the value is still good if you take out one of the two best assets in the deal)


Still wouldnt do that for the leafs. Not a good way to spend the money/assets
Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:25 p.m.
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And hes been a passenger while doing it. Empty calorie ****. Late stage mike hoffman type player. Worthless


Again, changing your argument when proven wrong. 44 ES points in his last 89 games, 14 PP points, you called him a PP merchant.

Take the L.
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Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:26 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Again, changing your argument when proven wrong. 44 ES points in his last 89 games, 14 PP points, you called him a PP merchant.

Take the L.


Buddy. Points are not a good measure of value. They are a measure of results.
He doesnt contribute at 5v5. He only contributes at PP. That has always been my position and it hasnt changed. Citing empty calorie points doesnt help your case
Nov. 18, 2022 at 12:28 p.m.
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Buddy. Points are not a good measure of value. They are a measure of results.
He doesnt contribute at 5v5. He only contributes at PP. That has always been my position and it hasnt changed. Citing empty calorie points doesnt help your case


Just not true. Admitting you were wrong isna big part of growing up. Hope you get there.
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