All of their big contract players are either equal to or better than Anderson so why would they give one up plus a 1st round pick to get an equal or worse player for a similar cap hit. So again the flames can’t take on that Garbo contract. Math isn’t that hard.

I mean you pretty much made my point for me.
1. How is that trade working out for the pens?
2. GMJR is known for overpaying for players he likes. Other gm’s not so much.
3. Kapanen didn’t have an absurd contract
4. Kapanen was younger and an RFA
5. Calgary doesn’t have the cap space
6. Kapanen trade was made in the offseason
7. Kapanen was making less actual dollars than his cap hit, while over the next few years Anderson will be making more actual dollars than his cap hit.

Weird I have a pretty good track record on this site for value but okay

Everyone was wrong about Chiarot, Lehkonen, Toffoli, Kulak and Pacioretty's value except Habs fans.

My point is Anderson is worth a 1st. Your point is he's not. I'll note your name, let's talk again when he is traded for a 1st.

Literally the only suprise on the list was Chiarot and people expected him to get get a 2nd, instead he got a late 1st, Anderson just isn't good enough to get a 1st sorry man but think you habs fans are out to lunch on this one

I've posted threads on those trades before they happened, and literally no fans from other teams agreed with what i was asking. Then they got traded for exactly or more than what i asked.

You just pretending his contract isn't brutal?

I think 5.5M for a 6'3 227lbs 25 goal scorer fast skating power forward is decent. You see him as a 3rd liner, but he's a 2nd liner. That's why you think his contract is bad.

Detroit just signed Chiarot for almost 5M a year. I'd take Anderson over him any day of the week. There's a difference between the value you think a player has and market value.

Oh so we are just making up random stats now? Generally to be a 25 goal scorer you have at least get 25 goals more than once in your last 7 years.

Comparing him to Chiarot is just stupid considering 1) they don't play the same position, and 2) that contract was widely considered bad when it was signed (just like the Gudbranson deal).

He's not a 2nd liner at all, he's a middle 6 player than can jump onto the 2nd line in the case of injuries

That was your initial point. It’s wrong, that’s fine. The point you then tried to argue is all I talked about was points which again was wrong, I mentioned everything else, the other guy mentioned goals. Take notes, that’s fine, at the end of the day in your absolute best day you’re a blind squirrel who found a nut on a website about fake hockey teams. Pat yourself on the back kiddo

Reading your first quote, all you talk about is points difference. You mention the Monahan trade, again talking about the difference between him and Anderson's point production. Read it again if you want, i quoted it too.

I'll repeat, if you think hockey is only about points, you should watch another sport.

Babe. Go through. The Lehkonen deal way brought up as a comparable. I’m the only one that mentioned analytics. You’re whole premises is “Anderson is worth a first because I feel like it”. Embarrassing at best

When did i say that? You're putting words in my mouth right now.

I think Anderson is worth a 1st because many teams showed interest a few years ago when he was traded from Colombus, and many hockey experts are saying many teams are still interested.

Analytics are good for baseball. That could be an interesting sport for you to watch. Points, score and analytics only, simple enough for you.

Hockey is about many things including toughness, speed and physicality, which are all great atributes Anderson have.

I could say he was on pace for 25+ goals many times, but i know you're gonna say on pace doesn't mean anything, but we all know it does since the player could have scored 25+ if he wasn't injured.

I'll use a better comparison then. CGY signed Coleman for 4.9M for 7 years, a weak slow player who never scored more than 20 goals in his life except for 2 seasons.

Anderson is not worth 5.5M? Calgary would trade Coleman for Anderson any day of the week, but they can't because they had the smart idea to give him a full NTC on his first 3 years.

Brutal takes.

Josh Anderson paced 25 goals exactly in 17/18 and got 27 goals in 18/19. Outside of those years he's never paced or gotten 25 goals.

Blake Coleman is weak and slow? The guys very strong for his size and is one of the best defensive wingers in the league. Anderson is half the player Coleman is.

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about

Everyone says their overpaid 4th liner are one of the best defensive forward in the league. Tell me without laughing you wouldn't dump Coleman's contract if you could.

Anderson was on pace for 27 goals in 20/21, 23 goals in 21/22 and he's on pace for 27 goals this year. That's 4 years out of 7 on 25 goals pace, and 1 more on a 23 goals pace.

And in 19/20, he had a back injury and missed most of the season. If you take out that year, that's 5 years out of 6 where he had 23+ goals.

I think you're the one making up random stats at this point. Please check your facts next time. You're the one who clearly has no clue what he's talking about.

Absolutely not. Coleman is an excellent 3rd line shutdown winger.

You are right on the 20/21 season, I missed that he only played 59 games. Regardless a 23 goal pave in 21/22 is not a 25 goal pace. And calling this year a 27 goal pace after 15 games is jumping the gun a bit much. Again thats still average middle 6 production. He's a 35-40 point player getting paid like he's a 55-60 point player. End of the day it doesn't matter since Calgary can't afford to pay ~15M to their 3rd line

To me, a player who has, over 6 seasons, three 25+ goals seasons, a 23 goals season and is still on pace for another 27 goals, is a bonafide 25 goals scorer.

25 goals scorer play on 3rd line now? You would keep 5'11 185lbs Dubé with his 1 goal on your top 6 over Anderson? Anderson is a MUCH better player than him or Coleman.

Anderson doesn't get assists because he's not a puck carrier or a passer. He's a north-south player, forecheck, hits and goals. With a passer like Huberdeau, he'd score 30+ goals.

So how many 25 goals seasons would he need to prove he's a 25 goal scorer? You're gonna wait until he's 33 years old to admit it, after 10 out of 12 seasons with 25 goals?

This is all so embarrassing for you. You are trying to point out how I am only talking about points? The only thing you’ve talked about in this thread is “Anderson was on pace for this many goals”. Analytics are for baseball.. and you know the 32 teams that are paying through the nose for top end analytics departments in hockey! Maybe instead of switching sports you should just drop the whole watching sports thing together, you clearly would rather think you’re right than learn a thing or two, I don’t know how deep the insecurity runs in other areas of your life but take small steps, start by getting better here today, it’s okay to be wrong. You’ve taken your lumps, time to move on.

Your first answer was : How come 23 points in 65 games for 1 season costs a first to move but 32 points in 69 games fir multiple years is worth a first?

My point is Anderson is way more than points. Teams need those potato and meat type of players.

I was only talking about goals because the other guy was arguing Anderson is not a 25 goals scorer, which he clearly is.

I'm the one trying to say Anderson is more than just points. You're the one saying he's bad because of his low point production.

You're right, all teams pay for analytics departments. However, that's just more info they get. Teams choose if they use it or not after. MTL had bad analytics when they reach SCF.

You still can't find when i said Anderson is worth a 1st because i feel like it? Maybe it's because i never said it, and you're making up stuff.

Again, i'll note your name, and when Anderson is traded for a 1st in term of value, we'll talk again. You probably won't answer just like the others who were wrong before you.

Telling yourself he’s a 25 goal scorer is lying to yourself. I’d love to see the time they handed out the Rocket Richard to the guy on pace for the most goals, I would hope you’re smarter than that.

You feel like Anderson is worth a first in spite of his negative even strength possession numbers, consistently underperforming to his contract, 36 point 82 game average. That’s just your feelings instead of looking at numbers and thinking hey, this guy kinda stinks for 5.5 a year.

Please note my name, it reaffirms the petulance and insecurity I mentioned above. You can’t see how noting names on a website about fake hockey teams is pathetic right? At best you get to pat yourself in the back.. that’s you’re bar, you can see where I get the feeling that you should be embarrassed right?

But he doesn't have 3 25+ goal seasons, he has 1 20+ goal season.

In case you didn't notice Dube isn't playing in the top 6 right now too and calling Anderson "much better than Coleman" is a hilarious joke.



Mangiapane is a much better goal scorer than Anderson why would they not just play him with Huberdeau if given the option between the 2?

Those graphs only shows offensive and defensive, doesn't show other qualities Anderson has, like physicality and grit. Hockey isn't about points only.

Mangiapane and Coleman have 0 grit. Darryl Sutter or Huberdeau would take Anderson over them any day of the week.

Anderson have one 27 goals season and 3 "on pace for" 25 goals seasons.

I'll note your name because i'm tired of trolls like you who don't know anything about players value or even hockey at all.

You all comment on hockey trades on "hockey site about fake hockey teams", but when you're proven wrong after they're traded, you're all nowhere to be seen.

But i guess that's what the world has become. A real men would admit when he was wrong. What you're doing, never assuming, is what i would call insecurity.