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HAWKS TDL

Created by: dally247
Team: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 19, 2022
Published: Nov. 19, 2022
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Trades
1.
CHI
  1. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Domi, Max
  2. Murphy, Connor
Additional Details:
Murphy helps replace Muzzin with his future uncertain.
Domi adds grit for play off's.
2.
CHI
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas
Additional Details:
Adds speed up and down the line up
3.
CHI
  1. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Lafferty, Sam
  2. Toews, Jonathan ($5,250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Toews seems to have recaptured some of his play. His face off work has been good this season.
Lafferty is a great high energy 3rd/4th line checking player.
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
17$82,500,000$50,576,379$237,500$850,000$31,923,621
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$758,333$758,333
LW
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$975,000$975,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$758,333$758,333
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RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$883,750$883,750
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RFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD
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$900,000$900,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
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UFA - 1

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Nov. 19, 2022 at 4:30 p.m.
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And that’s a no from COL.
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Nov. 19, 2022 at 4:56 p.m.
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Domi isn't gritty and Murphy isn't a replacement for Muzzin. No thanks
Nov. 19, 2022 at 4:58 p.m.
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Domi half retained for the same return as last year and I'd do it. But Murphy isn't very good anymore and isn't needed in Toronto.
Nov. 19, 2022 at 5:05 p.m.
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Toews production has dropped off, I'd argue his name is worth a 1st but his stats are worth more like a 2nd or 3rd, and that's still a lot to spend considering its 5 mill for a playoff rental who hasn't played playoff hockey for awhile.
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Nov. 19, 2022 at 5:14 p.m.
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Quoting: West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home
Toews production has dropped off, I'd argue his name is worth a 1st but his stats are worth more like a 2nd or 3rd, and that's still a lot to spend considering its 5 mill for a playoff rental who hasn't played playoff hockey for awhile.


He’s been insane this year your a casual
Nov. 19, 2022 at 5:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Xqb15a
And that’s a no from COL.


I have a bias towards not blowing a 1st round pick on a pure rental. But I can absolutely see a front office taking that deal under the premise that Toews has had a productive season (assuming it continues) and he has leadership/big game experience.

So, I guess no from me but not a hard no from Colorado necessarily
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Nov. 19, 2022 at 5:18 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
He’s been insane this year your a casual


10 points in 16 games isn't even close to "insane"; he has 1 point in his last five games. No, a good FO% isn't worth a 1st; faceoffs just aren't that important. He has a full NMC so getting a 1st for him, even in 2024 is going to be next to impossible.
Nov. 19, 2022 at 5:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Domi isn't gritty and Murphy isn't a replacement for Muzzin. No thanks


With the uncertainty with Muzzins future, you will likely need a replacement. What would you do ?
Nov. 19, 2022 at 5:30 p.m.
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I have a bias towards not blowing a 1st round pick on a pure rental. But I can absolutely see a front office taking that deal under the premise that Toews has had a productive season (assuming it continues) and he has leadership/big game experience.

So, I guess no from me but not a hard no from Colorado necessarily


You're right, it is a gamble. But if all goes well, it'd be a late 1st round pick. Also Lafferty has been a pleasant surprise for us this season, his high energy and work on the PK I've really liked.
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Nov. 19, 2022 at 5:40 p.m.
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Quoting: DarcyTucker
Domi half retained for the same return as last year and I'd do it. But Murphy isn't very good anymore and isn't needed in Toronto.


Well he's certainly better than an unavailable Muzzin, who would you go for to replace Muzzin?
Nov. 19, 2022 at 5:56 p.m.
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Quoting: dally247
With the uncertainty with Muzzins future, you will likely need a replacement. What would you do ?


Something a lot better than Murphy
Nov. 19, 2022 at 6:57 p.m.
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Quoting: turtlemountain
I have a bias towards not blowing a 1st round pick on a pure rental. But I can absolutely see a front office taking that deal under the premise that Toews has had a productive season (assuming it continues) and he has leadership/big game experience.

So, I guess no from me but not a hard no from Colorado necessarily


There are so many reasons I don’t want to see Toews in Avs sweater beyond the fact that I don’t see them giving up their only draft pick in the first 5 rounds in consecutive windows and how that closes the championship window faster.
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Nov. 19, 2022 at 7:04 p.m.
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You're right, it is a gamble. But if all goes well, it'd be a late 1st round pick. Also Lafferty has been a pleasant surprise for us this season, his high energy and work on the PK I've really liked.


COL under their current regime has traded exactly one 1st round pick and that was out of necessity because they got caught short in the goalie market in the summer of 21. Throw in the fact it is their only draft pick in the first 5 rounds in the last 2 drafts and they have traded away their 24 2nd and 3rd and the fastest way to close a championship window is to have no prospects or picks they aren’t trading away a 1st even if it’s late for a 34yr old rental who has zero points in his last 5 games, and has seen a decrease in effectiveness over the last several years.
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 12:29 p.m.
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
10 points in 16 games isn't even close to "insane"; he has 1 point in his last five games. No, a good FO% isn't worth a 1st; faceoffs just aren't that important. He has a full NMC so getting a 1st for him, even in 2024 is going to be next to impossible.


Considering everyone thought he was "washed up", his two way game has come back, he is on pace for 50+ points, and he dominates at the dot, "insane" is still probably an overstatement, but "insanely better than most people thought he would be this season" is a valid statement. Not to mention, he is a veteran leader and 3 time stanley cup winner... I don't think a late 1st round pick this year is out of the question, and a 2024 or 2025 1st round pick, or something comparable in value, is definitely not out of the question.
Nov. 20, 2022 at 6:37 p.m.
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Considering everyone thought he was "washed up", his two way game has come back, he is on pace for 50+ points, and he dominates at the dot, "insane" is still probably an overstatement, but "insanely better than most people thought he would be this season" is a valid statement. Not to mention, he is a veteran leader and 3 time stanley cup winner... I don't think a late 1st round pick this year is out of the question, and a 2024 or 2025 1st round pick, or something comparable in value, is definitely not out of the question.


That's not how any of it works. People dont trade for players based on how they performed versus expectations. If toews was projected to put up 5 goals and scores 10, literally no one cares. What they actually care about is how is a 5 million dollar player going to perform who will change the team chemistry for better or worst. His productivity has been declining and all the conjecture about a 3 time cup champ is removed when he's gone to the playoffs once in the past five years. If he's hovering around 25 goals during the trade deadline I could see him getting a similar package to Giroux. All that being said, it is highly unlikely Chicago trades him, I'd expect a deal to take him into retirement. And the Avs aren't really hurting for centers
Nov. 20, 2022 at 6:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Garak
Considering everyone thought he was "washed up", his two way game has come back, he is on pace for 50+ points, and he dominates at the dot, "insane" is still probably an overstatement, but "insanely better than most people thought he would be this season" is a valid statement. Not to mention, he is a veteran leader and 3 time stanley cup winner... I don't think a late 1st round pick this year is out of the question, and a 2024 or 2025 1st round pick, or something comparable in value, is definitely not out of the question.


He's doing better than some thought he would but I certainly never considered him "washed up". On further consideration, if he can keep up his pace on a very bad Hawks team and a guy like Lafferty is included, yes a 1st makes sense although, if I'm the Avs, I make it a 2024 1st and maybe a prospect like Ranta.
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 6:39 p.m.
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Quoting: West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home
That's not how any of it works. People dont trade for players based on how they performed versus expectations. If toews was projected to put up 5 goals and scores 10, literally no one cares. What they actually care about is how is a 5 million dollar player going to perform who will change the team chemistry for better or worst. His productivity has been declining and all the conjecture about a 3 time cup champ is removed when he's gone to the playoffs once in the past five years. If he's hovering around 25 goals during the trade deadline I could see him getting a similar package to Giroux. All that being said, it is highly unlikely Chicago trades him, I'd expect a deal to take him into retirement. And the Avs aren't really hurting for centers


They're hurting for a legit 2C - at this point, nobody has proven they can do anything close to what Naz did and the 2020 playoffs proved they needed a strong 2C. If Toews can show consistency up to the TDL, he should definitely be on the Avs radar.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 1:08 p.m.
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Quoting: West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home
That's not how any of it works. People dont trade for players based on how they performed versus expectations. If toews was projected to put up 5 goals and scores 10, literally no one cares. What they actually care about is how is a 5 million dollar player going to perform who will change the team chemistry for better or worst. His productivity has been declining and all the conjecture about a 3 time cup champ is removed when he's gone to the playoffs once in the past five years. If he's hovering around 25 goals during the trade deadline I could see him getting a similar package to Giroux. All that being said, it is highly unlikely Chicago trades him, I'd expect a deal to take him into retirement. And the Avs aren't really hurting for centers


I'm aware that that is not what trades are based on. It is an EXAMPLE of how he is proving everyone wrong, including myself, and not "washed up" like most people seem to think for some reason. He had a career season just before all of those health concerns too, and now after one down season recovering from health issues he is right back to playing a high level of hockey. I definitely see them finishing their careers in CHI, but that doesn't mean that can't still be traded as rentals at the deadline. It's all up to them and whether they want to chase another cup or whether they can stomach a rebuild.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 1:10 p.m.
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
They're hurting for a legit 2C - at this point, nobody has proven they can do anything close to what Naz did and the 2020 playoffs proved they needed a strong 2C. If Toews can show consistency up to the TDL, he should definitely be on the Avs radar.


Toews could definitely be a good low risk option for 2C. He is having a pretty darn good season, but I think he'd be doing better if he had even more legit linemates. Most of the time him and Kane are split up. But they play pretty well together when they are on the power play or need a boost and shake up the lines.
 
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