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Created by: Bruinadian67
Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 20, 2022
Published: Nov. 20, 2022
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Two articles in SM and everyone becomes bandwagonesque!
Also I know Chicago, Buffalo and some Bruins fans won’t like this but I still don’t think Reilly and Smith are worthless. Reilly is the tougher sell but I’ve seen Sweeney do more with less. Smith just needs more minutes!!
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  1. 2024 4th round pick (BUF)
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 8:50 a.m.
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The Hawks have spoken on what it will cost. Dickinson is the price for cap dumps. Send the 2025 2nd to CHI and that MIGHT work. The VAN 2023 2nd is better than the BOS 2025 2nd plus the extra 300k cap hit.
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 8:58 a.m.
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If someone was out there who wanted Reilly, they'd already have him
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 9:03 a.m.
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Isn’t is obvious that nobody wants Reilly’s cap hit? Pretty much solidifies he’s a cap dump
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 9:25 a.m.
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Quoting: reelnb
If someone was out there who wanted Reilly, they'd already have him


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Isn’t is obvious that nobody wants Reilly’s cap hit? Pretty much solidifies he’s a cap dump


10 teams were at the game scouting him 2 nights ago. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Nov. 20, 2022 at 9:26 a.m.
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10 teams were at the game scouting him 2 nights ago. 🤷🏻‍♂️


What game? And how do you know they were there for him?
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 9:28 a.m.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
10 teams were at the game scouting him 2 nights ago. 🤷🏻‍♂️


he passed through waivers this very season
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 9:30 a.m.
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Edited Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:08 a.m.
Quoting: GeneralLandro
What game? And how do you know they were there for him?


AHL game Friday night.

From two guys who covers them.

Avalanche, Blue Jackets, Canadiens, Devils, Kraken, Lightning, Predators, Rangers, Sharks, and Stars.

A team that was not there, Ottawa, spent part of the day discussing Reilly the day before that.

4 of those teams have less than 500k of space themselves so there is not a lot of good fits there unless a 3rd team is involved. A couple don’t seem to make much sense at all.

Kraken are currently shopping Soucy, similar cap hit expiring contract, Reilly would be a good pickup to replace him. Has term and other than Dunn their d corp is lacking puck movers.
Nov. 20, 2022 at 9:31 a.m.
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Quoting: reelnb
he passed through waivers this very season


Twice. Only 8 teams had the available cap apace to claim him. Only 1 of them really had a need and made any sense. A couple of teams wanted to claim him but could not.

Also situations have changed since then. Injuries have changed the landscape for some teams,
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:06 a.m.
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Until Reilly actually prevents you from doing something to improve the team you hold onto him because we know you can't have too many dmen.
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:08 a.m.
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Quoting: exo2769
The Hawks have spoken on what it will cost. Dickinson is the price for cap dumps. Send the 2025 2nd to CHI and that MIGHT work. The VAN 2023 2nd is better than the BOS 2025 2nd plus the extra 300k cap hit.
Quoting: reelnb
If someone was out there who wanted Reilly, they'd already have him
Quoting: GeneralLandro
Isn’t is obvious that nobody wants Reilly’s cap hit? Pretty much solidifies he’s a cap dump
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...Avalanche, Blue Jackets, Canadiens, Devils, Kraken, Lightning, Predators, Rangers, Sharks, and Stars....
What has changed in the past two weeks that any of those teams that could have had Mike for free are now willing to offer a 3rd round pick for him?
Did they suddenly shed cap?
Was their GM sleeping when he was put on waivers?
It appears 31 teams do not think his contract is commensurate with his performance.
It should be obvious that no team will give up a pick for something they could have had for free.
If Sweeny wants to move him it will take a sweetener.
Reverse the third and put it on the Boston side of the ledger and maybe Karmanos would say yes.
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:11 a.m.
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Edited Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:23 a.m.
Quoting: gretzkyghosts
What has changed in the past two weeks that any of those teams that could have had Mike for free are now willing to offer a 3rd round pick for him?
Did they suddenly shed cap?
Was their GM sleeping when he was put on waivers?
It appears 31 teams do not think his contract is commensurate with his performance.
It should be obvious that no team will give up a pick for something they could have had for free.
If Sweeny wants to move him it will take a sweetener.
Reverse the third and put it on the Boston side of the ledger and maybe Karmanos would say yes.


Yeah, to me it's not a question of can BOS get something back for him. It's if another team had an injury...can BOS limit their loss. Also, it was pointed out to me on a different post that BOS can waive Stralman and fit Forbort...so it's not a must have to trade him...HOWEVER that's also complicated because waiving Stralman...the guy you chose over Reilly means SAID ACQUIRING team could pick of Stralman for free before Reilly.
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
10 teams were at the game scouting him 2 nights ago. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Who wouldn't want to watch this team play right now? Lol
Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:44 a.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
What has changed in the past two weeks that any of those teams that could have had Mike for free are now willing to offer a 3rd round pick for him?
Did they suddenly shed cap?
Was their GM sleeping when he was put on waivers?
It appears 31 teams do not think his contract is commensurate with his performance.
It should be obvious that no team will give up a pick for something they could have had for free.
If Sweeny wants to move him it will take a sweetener.
Reverse the third and put it on the Boston side of the ledger and maybe Karmanos would say yes.


Not one of those teams could have claimed him due to cap space.

Jackets for one lost Werenski, that changes their outlook.

I never said anything about trade value, only countering the notion that “nobody wanted him”. Nor did i say they would get a pick for him.

3/4 of the teams could not claim him, that does not mean that there is no desire for him or that a trade can’t be made. There are multiple ways to make that happen. A 1 for 1 trade for similar cap hit expiring contract. A 1 for 1 taking a contract with less cap hit but more term. A 3rd team involved to retain or take some cap. A 1 for 1 swap for a lesser talented player with that moves enough cap for the other team to work. Package him with a prospect/pick or 2 for a lesser prospect/pick.

Habs GM Hughes said they wanted to claim him, cap prevented it.

The argument of “but nobody claimed him” is a fairly dumb one.

Of the 8 teams that had the ability too only 2 made sense and 1 was better off holding onto that cap space.
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
Who wouldn't want to watch this team play right now? Lol


Scouted him at Providence
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:44 a.m.
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Yeah, to me it's not a question of can BOS get something back for him. It's if another team had an injury...can BOS limit their loss. Also, it was pointed out to me on a different post that BOS can waive Stralman and fit Forbort...so it's not a must have to trade him...HOWEVER that's also complicated because waiving Stralman...the guy you chose over Reilly means SAID ACQUIRING team could pick of Stralman for free before Reilly.


The only reason Reilly was sent down before Stralman was because the team still can't fit Reilly's cap if they sent Stralman down instead. This was always a cap move, not a talent evaluation move.

And if you ask any BOS fan which player they would rather have on the team, they will pick Reilly. Stralman has been pretty brutal this year, doubt any team would claim him.
Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:48 a.m.
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Yeah, to me it's not a question of can BOS get something back for him. It's if another team had an injury...can BOS limit their loss. Also, it was pointed out to me on a different post that BOS can waive Stralman and fit Forbort...so it's not a must have to trade him...HOWEVER that's also complicated because waiving Stralman...the guy you chose over Reilly means SAID ACQUIRING team could pick of Stralman for free before Reilly.


Quoting: exo2769
Yeah, to me it's not a question of can BOS get something back for him. It's if another team had an injury...can BOS limit their loss. Also, it was pointed out to me on a different post that BOS can waive Stralman and fit Forbort...so it's not a must have to trade him...HOWEVER that's also complicated because waiving Stralman...the guy you chose over Reilly means SAID ACQUIRING team could pick of Stralman for free before Reilly.



Stralman was not chose over Reilly. Reilly was sent down for cap reasons and with the hope he would be claimed which would have solved everything.

Stralman and Reilly are 8th and 9th on the depth chart. On talent alone Reilly would be 6/7. Reilly better than Zboril biut Z is cheaper and won’t clear waivers. Don’t really care if either get claimed.
Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:49 a.m.
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I don't see CHI having any interest in Reilly unless they are RECEIVING pieces to take on his contract or retain some salary in a 3-way trade. Also, Smith is a pure cap dump. He very well may still be a "serviceable" bottom 6 NHL forward, but he is 33 and on an expiring and fairly expensive contract. He wouldn't get "more playing time" in BUF.
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:54 a.m.
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The only reason Reilly was sent down before Stralman was because the team still can't fit Reilly's cap if they sent Stralman down instead. This was always a cap move, not a talent evaluation move.

And if you ask any BOS fan which player they would rather have on the team, they will pick Reilly. Stralman has been pretty brutal this year, doubt any team would claim him.


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Stralman was not chose over Reilly. Reilly was sent down for cap reasons and with the hope he would be claimed which would have solved everything.

Stralman and Reilly are 8th and 9th on the depth chart. On talent alone Reilly would be 6/7. Reilly better than Zboril biut Z is cheaper and won’t clear waivers. Don’t really care if either get claimed.


If they wanted Reilly in the NHL and Stralman down...they could make it work. It's not about talent alone. It's about cap hit too. For the exact reasons you're saying "talent alone" is a clear admission of $3M pure cap dump.
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 11:13 a.m.
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If they wanted Reilly in the NHL and Stralman down...they could make it work. It's not about talent alone. It's about cap hit too. For the exact reasons you're saying "talent alone" is a clear admission of $3M pure cap dump.


Wrong. They can’t make it work. That’s the point. If cap did not exist Reilly would be with the big club and in the lineup. If you look at the metrics from last year he was quite solid.

The lineup you say they could make work has a cap hit of 83.6 with just short of 5m bonus overages.

They did this to themselves by not moving him before free agency. They were to scared because of the injuries to Mac and Grizz. They should have anyway. They also held out for more value on a Smith trade rather than move him.

Now they are paying for it.
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 11:26 a.m.
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I don't see CHI having any interest in Reilly unless they are RECEIVING pieces to take on his contract or retain some salary in a 3-way trade. Also, Smith is a pure cap dump. He very well may still be a "serviceable" bottom 6 NHL forward, but he is 33 and on an expiring and fairly expensive contract. He wouldn't get "more playing time" in BUF.



Agree completely with the Reilly portion of this. Hawks one of the few teams that could have claimed him. Twice. They did not. They are certainly not giving up anything for him without incentive.

I don’t agree with Smith eval.
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 11:33 a.m.
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If they wanted Reilly in the NHL and Stralman down...they could make it work. It's not about talent alone. It's about cap hit too. For the exact reasons you're saying "talent alone" is a clear admission of $3M pure cap dump.


They actually can't make it work. It's purely a cap move.
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