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Initial Creation Date: Nov. 21, 2022
Published: Nov. 21, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Knies, Matthew3$900,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Monahan, Sean1$1,600,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
Additional Details:
if he comes back healthy and looks good for a decent period of time
ARI
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. Sandin, Rasmus
  3. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Jensen, Nick ($1,250,000 retained)
WSH
  1. Hirvonen, Roni
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Monahan, Sean ($3,135,000 retained)
MTL
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Habs turn a profit on Monahan trade via both the pick they took for the dump, and the pick they get from TOR plus the pick they will get for flipping Engvall. Or, he's got a pretty french name, maybe he stays? Lol.

The 4th goes to a 3rd party team for double retention on Monahan
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$82,500,000$81,792,913$212,500$0$707,087

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Robertson, Nicholas
$796,667
LW
RFA - 2
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Monahan, Sean
$1,600,000
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Järnkrok, Calle
$2,100,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Aston-Reese, Zach
$840,630
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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Malgin, Denis
$750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Murray, Matt
$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Chychrun, Jakob
$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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Jensen, Nick
$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Samsonov, Ilya
$1,800,000
G
RFA - 1
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Giordano, Mark
$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Liljegren, Timothy
$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Monahan, Sean
$3,240,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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Knies, Matthew
$900,000 ($0)
LW
RFA
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Källgren, Erik
$750,000 ($0)
G
RFA - 1
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Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000 ($0)
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Benn, Jordie
$750,000 ($0)
LD/RD
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Marner, M.
Tavares, J.
Nylander, W.
Rielly, M.
Matthews, A.
Power Play 2
Malgin, D.
Monahan, S.
Bunting, M.
Chychrun, J.
Robertson, N.
Penalty Kill 1
Kämpf, D.
Aston-Reese, Z.
Giordano, M.
Brodie, T.
Penalty Kill 2
Järnkrok, C.
Kerfoot, A.
Chychrun, J.
Jensen, N.

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Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:43 a.m.
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You need to add a 1st rd pick for SEAN
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:45 a.m.
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Quoting: BadaBing
You need to add a 1st rd pick for SEAN


lol he was a cap dump that cost a first to dump less than 20 games played ago, and its not like he's been Gretzky in those what, 18 games? Good one. Maybe his production climbs and that's the case by the TDL but at this rate I highly doubt it
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:45 a.m.
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Ya the habs arent giving away sean nearly that cheap.

.5+ ppg centres who are excellent in the dot dpnt go that cheap at the deadline not even close
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:46 a.m.
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Ya the habs arent giving away sean nearly that cheap.

.5+ ppg centres who are excellent in the dot dpnt go that cheap at the deadline not even close


yet people say Kerfoot is a cap dump when he had 50 points last year. Don't think Kerfoot (or Monahan) are dumps in the 3M range, but certainly not worth what you seem to think
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:49 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
lol he was a cap dump that cost a first to dump less than 20 games played ago, and its not like he's been Gretzky in those what, 18 games? Good one. Maybe his production climbs and that's the case by the TDL but at this rate I highly doubt it


Thats a pretty ignorant view of what happened.

Calgary paid a 1st because at the time they didnt know where Sean would be at come the start of the season and they wanted a garuntee in Kadri.

That was 3 months ago and since then Sean has proven himself to be healthy and is playing competent 2C hockey. That was the risk the habs took and it has paid off.

2Cs at the deadline(especially ones who used to be 1Cs and can fill in that spot in a pinch) go for 1st round picks thats a pretty well established value. Thats what Sean currently is.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:50 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
yet people say Kerfoot is a cap dump when he had 50 points last year. Don't think Kerfoot (or Monahan) are dumps in the 3M range, but certainly not worth what you seem to think


I agree with your statement. When there is a need for a player especially at the TDL, the price increase exponentially. Sean will be traded at the TDL and at his pace he should be .75pts per game. I see him going for a 1st and top prospect with 50% retention or in a 3 way trade getting HABS a 1st. Hughes is a shrewd negotiator. Flames dumped Sean to get Kadri. Master move from Hughes
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:56 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
yet people say Kerfoot is a cap dump when he had 50 points last year. Don't think Kerfoot (or Monahan) are dumps in the 3M range, but certainly not worth what you seem to think


I like this argument. Kerfoot if heading for 50 points on an expiring contract is worth more than a 3rd and a 4th.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:56 a.m.
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I don't think you need Chychrun but the Jensen add would be a good one and I think Monohan would be decent. If you don't trade for Chychrun you don't need double retention. Despite what those Montreal fans think Monohan's value is fine. He might get a second round pick or a third and B prospect.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:59 a.m.
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yet people say Kerfoot is a cap dump when he had 50 points last year. Don't think Kerfoot (or Monahan) are dumps in the 3M range, but certainly not worth what you seem to think


Several things.

Sean is a bonafide centre in the NHL Kerfoot isnt.

Kerfoot is 5'10 Monahan is 6'2

Kerfoots 51 points was a career high and not reflective of the previous 2 seasons when he was a sub .5 ppg player. Monahan is YOUNGER than Kerfoot and has more career points than Kerfoot has games.

Now that Monahan is healthy they arent the same calibre of players.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 11:00 a.m.
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I don't know why so many people want to trade the farm for Jakob Chychrun. Yes he's a good player, yes he has an attractive contract. He only played 47 games last year, hasn't played this year and has never played over 68 Nhl games in a single season. Trading for him okay, trading the farm for him isn't.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 11:18 a.m.
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Jensen without retained salary is worth a 1st. This is a poor return for a great RSD on a great contract.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 11:21 a.m.
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Unfortunately these are all pretty weak offers, and easily beaten.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 11:47 a.m.
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These are all not good enough. Maybe the Washington could get it done, but I doubt it.

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yet people say Kerfoot is a cap dump when he had 50 points last year. Don't think Kerfoot (or Monahan) are dumps in the 3M range, but certainly not worth what you seem to think


If that were all Montreal would get for Monahan with 50% retention, they'd be better off trying to re-sign him. I mean, if Monahan is only worth a 3rd and Engvall, then Engvall has got to be worth nothing.

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I don't know why so many people want to trade the farm for Jakob Chychrun. Yes he's a good player, yes he has an attractive contract. He only played 47 games last year, hasn't played this year and has never played over 68 Nhl games in a single season. Trading for him okay, trading the farm for him isn't.


A 22 year old D-man who has yet to establish himself in the NHL, a presumably late 1st and a lesser prospect is not trading the farm for Chyrchrun.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 12:20 p.m.
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Several things.

Sean is a bonafide centre in the NHL Kerfoot isnt.

Kerfoot is 5'10 Monahan is 6'2

Kerfoots 51 points was a career high and not reflective of the previous 2 seasons when he was a sub .5 ppg player. Monahan is YOUNGER than Kerfoot and has more career points than Kerfoot has games.

Now that Monahan is healthy they arent the same calibre of players.


He’s been healthy for about 2 months one injury & your entire argument is screwed, secondly height means nothing & the fact you brung it up is a very poor argument also Kerfoot managed those 51 points with 0 PP time, He was a 40 point player in Colorado both of his first Seasons & yes he was in the 20-30 point mark the two previous (Shortened Seasons) But he is still a good player & should fetch fair value, As for Monahan i don’t want him & Don’t want to trade with a Divisional Rival especially the Habs
Nov. 21, 2022 at 1:05 p.m.
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You ain't getting sean for a 3rd
Nov. 21, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Black61
Thats a pretty ignorant view of what happened.

Calgary paid a 1st because at the time they didnt know where Sean would be at come the start of the season and they wanted a garuntee in Kadri.

That was 3 months ago and since then Sean has proven himself to be healthy and is playing competent 2C hockey. That was the risk the habs took and it has paid off.

2Cs at the deadline(especially ones who used to be 1Cs and can fill in that spot in a pinch) go for 1st round picks thats a pretty well established value. Thats what Sean currently is.


Quoting: Black61
Several things.

Sean is a bonafide centre in the NHL Kerfoot isnt.

Kerfoot is 5'10 Monahan is 6'2

Kerfoots 51 points was a career high and not reflective of the previous 2 seasons when he was a sub .5 ppg player. Monahan is YOUNGER than Kerfoot and has more career points than Kerfoot has games.

Now that Monahan is healthy they arent the same calibre of players.


Quoting: Black61
Thats a pretty ignorant view of what happened.

Calgary paid a 1st because at the time they didnt know where Sean would be at come the start of the season and they wanted a garuntee in Kadri.

That was 3 months ago and since then Sean has proven himself to be healthy and is playing competent 2C hockey. That was the risk the habs took and it has paid off.

2Cs at the deadline(especially ones who used to be 1Cs and can fill in that spot in a pinch) go for 1st round picks thats a pretty well established value. Thats what Sean currently is.


sorry but he's on pace for 45 points, that's not 2C hockey and contenders won't pay for it as such. For a contender, that's a 3rd line center, maybe top 6 winger, who can maybe fill in as 2C in a pinch. Since 2019, both him and Kerfoot are hovering around .5ppg, while Kerfoot is better defensively and utilized on the PK, and hasn't been a significant injury risk. But anyways I'm not arguing Kerfoot is worth more, I used him as a reference point because, unless Monahan proves otherwise from now to the TDL, Monahan has been no better over the past few years than Kerfoot. I think both of them have value and neither of them are cap dumps, but they aren't miles apart and if Monahan's play stays status quo I'd bet the house he doesn't net a 1st. At best a 2nd purely on reputation's sake, not actual play, but I would again doubt that.

You also can't use the words "has proved himself" 18 games into the season. Especially when you're referring to injury.

Lol also the Monahan having more points than Kerfoot has games played - Sean isn't what he was. It's a tale of two careers for him because of injury, you have to look more recently than that given the very significant factors of late.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 4:45 p.m.
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I agree with your statement. When there is a need for a player especially at the TDL, the price increase exponentially. Sean will be traded at the TDL and at his pace he should be .75pts per game. I see him going for a 1st and top prospect with 50% retention or in a 3 way trade getting HABS a 1st. Hughes is a shrewd negotiator. Flames dumped Sean to get Kadri. Master move from Hughes


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sorry but he's on pace for 45 points, that's not 2C hockey and contenders won't pay for it as such. For a contender, that's a 3rd line center, maybe top 6 winger, who can maybe fill in as 2C in a pinch. Since 2019, both him and Kerfoot are hovering around .5ppg, while Kerfoot is better defensively and utilized on the PK, and hasn't been a significant injury risk. But anyways I'm not arguing Kerfoot is worth more, I used him as a reference point because, unless Monahan proves otherwise from now to the TDL, Monahan has been no better over the past few years than Kerfoot. I think both of them have value and neither of them are cap dumps, but they aren't miles apart and if Monahan's play stays status quo I'd bet the house he doesn't net a 1st. At best a 2nd purely on reputation's sake, not actual play, but I would again doubt that.

You also can't use the words "has proved himself" 18 games into the season. Especially when you're referring to injury.

Lol also the Monahan having more points than Kerfoot has games played - Sean isn't what he was. It's a tale of two careers for him because of injury, you have to look more recently than that given the very significant factors of late.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 5:56 p.m.
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if the caps like hirvonen as a prospect they accept -- won't pretend I know anything about him outside of his dobberprospects page but seems like a B+ level guy?
Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
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if the caps like hirvonen as a prospect they accept -- won't pretend I know anything about him outside of his dobberprospects page but seems like a B+ level guy?


yea prob B level, projects to be a useful 3rd liner most likely. Captain of Finland's junior team the past couple of years, good intangibles, good competitor.
 
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