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Are the Karlsson rumors true

Created by: MrazekGFX
Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 21, 2022
Published: Nov. 21, 2022
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I personally can't see it happening, I don't see how you can fit 3 right-handed defenseman into the top 4.
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DET
  1. Karlsson, Erik ($3,565,000 retained)
  2. Meier, Timo
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San Jose retains 31% of Karlsson's salary.
SJS
  1. Mazur, Carter [Reserve List]
  2. Viro, Eemil
  3. Vrána, Jakub
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (STL)
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (DET)
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2023
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24$82,500,000$79,636,389$0$3,857,500$2,863,611
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$2,375,000$2,375,000
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NTC
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, C
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$1,460,000$1,460,000
LW, C
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
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$6,435,000$6,435,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 4
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
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$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
LD
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$800,000$800,000
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$1,825,000$1,825,000
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$878,333$878,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW, C
RFA - 3
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$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1

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Nov. 21, 2022 at 4:36 p.m.
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This team kills me
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It looks like you have too many RD, that could be a problem, The canucks will take the More-Hits Cider guy if you need, we'll sauce you a solid 3rd rounder too

We would also take Hronek
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 4:36 p.m.
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Does not strike me as the kind of move Stevie Y would make
Nov. 21, 2022 at 4:37 p.m.
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
It looks like you have too many RD, that could be a problem, The canucks will take the More-Hits Cider guy if you need, we'll sauce you a solid 3rd rounder too

We would also take Hronek


The hawks are also interested in the Apple Cider dude.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 4:37 p.m.
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Add Edvisson, Wallinder, and every 1st until 2026 and maybe they consider this.

Obviously I'm exaggerating, but I can't tell you how far off your scenario is...
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.
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Neither Detroit nor San Jose consider this. SJ isn't retaining over $18,000,000 on Karlsson while also adding Meier for a meh return.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 4:50 p.m.
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"Hey Jakub, hope you're recovering well. We've traded you, pack your bags and get lost"

that'd be just great and very classy of the organization. I can assure you, before even looking at the rest of the deal, Stevie Y will be not be doing that to Vrana right now.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 4:55 p.m.
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
It looks like you have too many RD, that could be a problem, The canucks will take the More-Hits Cider guy if you need, we'll sauce you a solid 3rd rounder too

We would also take Hronek


my exact thoughts too, no clue why I've been seeing so many rumors going around regarding this, I don't see it.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 4:56 p.m.
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A. Detroit should not be in on Karlsson
B. This isn't even remotely enough of a return for San Jose to even take the call
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 5:02 p.m.
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
A. Detroit should not be in on Karlsson
B. This isn't even remotely enough of a return for San Jose to even take the call


Yes, Yes, but I think part of the trade is the anchor contract that the team takes on
Nov. 21, 2022 at 5:11 p.m.
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
Yes, Yes, but I think part of the trade is the anchor contract that the team takes on


Yeah, but they aren't going to add Meier unless maybe that team is taking Karlsson at 11.5m.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 5:22 p.m.
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Karlsson is 32, has an $11.5M cap hit, has 4 more seasons remaining on his current contract, is scoring at an unsustainable pace, and he hasn't played more than 56 regular seasons games in the past 4 seasons.

SJS isn't retaining $3.5M a season for the next 4 seasons or $14M total. Grier is retaining $2,75M for 2 more seasons on the Burns trade and I think he likes his job. So retaining another $3.5M for multiple seasons is something that could end his stint as SJS's GM.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 5:27 p.m.
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
A. Detroit should not be in on Karlsson
B. This isn't even remotely enough of a return for San Jose to even take the call


This.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 5:28 p.m.
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Detroit passes, No way are we interested in Erik Karlsson.

As much as i would love to add Timo Meier to our roster, For what it would cost us no way.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 5:45 p.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
Karlsson is 32, has an $11.5M cap hit, has 4 more seasons remaining on his current contract, is scoring at an unsustainable pace, and he hasn't played more than 56 regular seasons games in the past 4 seasons.

SJS isn't retaining $3.5M a season for the next 4 seasons or $14M total. Grier is retaining $2,75M for 2 more seasons on the Burns trade and I think he likes his job. So retaining another $3.5M for multiple seasons is something that could end his stint as SJS's GM.


Is it just me or was that Burns trade pretty awful for SJ?
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 5:48 p.m.
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Yeah, but they aren't going to add Meier unless maybe that team is taking Karlsson at 11.5m.


or adding extra
Nov. 21, 2022 at 5:55 p.m.
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
or adding extra


Trading Meier and Karlsson is going to waterdown the return. Only reason to package them is if no one is willing to pay up for Meier.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: GMBL
Trading Meier and Karlsson is going to waterdown the return. Only reason to package them is if no one is willing to pay up for Meier.


I think there is merit to that, I think that they would Ideally try to send them out seperately, Karlsson at 2-3m would be a huge add, but it seems like he needs to be the #1, might be a decent candidate for a team looking for a solid PPQB
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 6:24 p.m.
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Musta missed this rumour somewhere
Nov. 21, 2022 at 6:35 p.m.
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Mazur isn't available. The End.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 6:36 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 21, 2022 at 6:57 p.m.
Quoting: Caniac555
Musta missed this rumour somewhere

Mike Johnson started this Karlsson to Red Wings BS. He's not a source. He pulled it straight from his arse.

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2022/11/2-potential-trade-destinations-for.html
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 6:39 p.m.
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Yeah, I don’t think he’s BS, he knows his stuff. But as you said, not a ‘rumor’ source. People really need to get better at differentiating commentary from rumors.

Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Mike Johnson started this Karlsson to Red Wings BS. He's not a source. He pulled it straight from his arse.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 6:42 p.m.
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San Jose isn’t trading Meier for nothing and eating all that cap. Terrible trade
Nov. 21, 2022 at 6:59 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Is it just me or was that Burns trade pretty awful for SJ?


I think so unless Burns really wanted out of San Jose. It's much better to move him than have an angry player in the locker room.
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:11 p.m.
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Pass
Mar. 24, 2023 at 11:51 a.m.
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
It looks like you have too many RD, that could be a problem, The canucks will take the More-Hits Cider guy if you need, we'll sauce you a solid 3rd rounder too

We would also take Hronek


lol
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