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A replacement if Reilly misses time

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Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 22, 2022
Published: Nov. 22, 2022
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Why not replace Reilly with .... Reilly?
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TOR
  1. Reilly, Mike
Additional Details:
Deal frees up alot of cap for Bruins who have waived Reilly twice this year. Also getting a defence man back makes sure the B's aren't left shorthanded.
BOS
  1. Mete, Victor
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Deal gets a good top 6 defence man with amazing metrics. JFresh has always been a fan of Reilly in his slides. Allows for Reilly and Brodie to fully heal before coming back.
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2023
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2024
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Nov. 22, 2022 at 10:32 a.m.
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Why would TO take on 3 million in salary for a guy who's been waived twice
Nov. 22, 2022 at 10:33 a.m.
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Better off just playing Mete, he's cheaper at this point and Reilly will be back at some point. Need to keep the cap space open for him to return.
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Nov. 22, 2022 at 10:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Why would TO take on 3 million in salary for a guy who's been waived twice


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Better off just playing Mete, he's cheaper at this point and Reilly will be back at some point. Need to keep the cap space open for him to return.


This is why: His projected War is 89%
His EV offence is 94%
His EV defence is 74%

Guy is good and just doesn't have a spot on the B's. I also cant seem to post his card so apologies
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Nov. 22, 2022 at 10:43 a.m.
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
This is why: His projected War is 89%
His EV offence is 94%
His EV defence is 74%

Guy is good and just doesn't have a spot on the B's. I also cant seem to post his card so apologies


Those cards are all over the map, how do all these depth guys on decent teams who get waived are all super good players? Obviously those advance stats are not overly reliable.
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Nov. 22, 2022 at 10:44 a.m.
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Nov. 22, 2022 at 10:46 a.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Those cards are all over the map, how do all these depth guys on decent teams who get waived are all super good players? Obviously those advance stats are not overly reliable.


Right now, it's because every team is up against the cap. The Leafs with Muzzin on LTIR likely the rest of his career have 5.5 million in cap space to make this work.
Nov. 22, 2022 at 10:47 a.m.
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
This is why: His projected War is 89%
His EV offence is 94%
His EV defence is 74%

Guy is good and just doesn't have a spot on the B's. I also cant seem to post his card so apologies


I'll bite, and go along with you that he is good. I don't watch Bruins games so I can't argue how good/valuable he is.

It still doesn't change the fact that TOR is taking on 3M in cap and will need it off the books when Morgan Reilly comes back. Unless of course he's out for the rest of the regular season then I'd try and go after someone a step up from Mike Reilly.
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Nov. 22, 2022 at 10:48 a.m.
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Edited Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:00 a.m.
The defense is really going to get challenged, which is a good thing for now. They may be forced into a trade later but they probably aren't going to trade for someone with a 3m cap hit with 2 years, unless he's going to be a full time addition when Brodie and Rielly are healthy. If they make a bigger addition it's probably for a RD or Chychrun if it's a LD. Only way they take Reilly is probably if Boston pays a 3rd team to retain but Boston isn't going to help a division rival like that, especially one that is in a greater position of weakness.

They probably go with:

Giordano-Holl
Sandin-Liljegren
Mete-Benn or Benn-Mete (they have experience together as a pairing from their MTL days).

Or

Gio-Lily
Sandin-Holl
Benn-Mete
Nov. 22, 2022 at 10:54 a.m.
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Boston accepts. You can even have Mete back when they waive him.
Nov. 22, 2022 at 10:54 a.m.
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Quoting: Ritzy
I'll bite, and go along with you that he is good. I don't watch Bruins games so I can't argue how good/valuable he is.

It still doesn't change the fact that TOR is taking on 3M in cap and will need it off the books when Morgan Reilly comes back. Unless of course he's out for the rest of the regular season then I'd try and go after someone a step up from Mike Reilly.


If you look above, we can fit the cap with Reilly. I am assuming Muzzin is done for good, having Brodie, Samsonov and Reilly on IR does not give us cap relief. We do not need to move cap out after if we acquire Mike Reilly.

If Reilly was going to miss the entire season, then absolutely I would move for someone a lot better as well. Lets hope it's not the case.
Nov. 22, 2022 at 10:57 a.m.
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The defense is really going to get challenged, which is a good thing for now. They may be forced into a trade later but they probably aren't going to trade for someone with a 3m cap hit with 2 years, unless he's going to be a full time addition when Brodie and Rielly are healthy. If they make a bigger addition it's probably for a RD or Chychrun if it's a LD. Only way they take Reilly is probably if Boston pays a 3rd team to retain but Boston isn't going to help a division rival like that, especially one that is in a a greater position of weakness.

They probably go with

Giordano-Holl
Sandin-Liljegren
Mete-Benn or Benn-Mete (they have experience together as a pairing from their MTL days).


I agree how this it will likely be, it just scares me so much. That last pair is concerning. Honestly, the deal is for if Reilly is missing a decent amount of time, but not alot of time. Mike Reilly adds alot of good for not alot of cap. The only down side is the extra year he brings with him, but again, if Muzzin career is done, then I don't hate it.
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Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:07 a.m.
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I agree how this it will likely be, it just scares me so much. That last pair is concerning. Honestly, the deal is for if Reilly is missing a decent amount of time, but not alot of time. Mike Reilly adds alot of good for not alot of cap. The only down side is the extra year he brings with him, but again, if Muzzin career is done, then I don't hate it.


They already have a surplus of LD though even if Muzzin is done, also they won't know until February.

I could see them trade for Timmins if they don't like Mete's play, then run:

Gio-Liljegren
Benn-Holl
Sandin-Timmins

If they are still bad, then I think it would be better for them to look at Soucy, Gavrikov, or Jensen. If they need a big minutes eater then Klingberg. These guys are going to cost more than Rielly but smaller chance that it leads to future complications that could be costly.

Brodie had a set back but I think he's still week to week, so it really depends if they can stay afloat or not in the standings while they are out.
Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:07 a.m.
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
If you look above, we can fit the cap with Reilly. I am assuming Muzzin is done for good, having Brodie, Samsonov and Reilly on IR does not give us cap relief. We do not need to move cap out after if we acquire Mike Reilly.

If Reilly was going to miss the entire season, then absolutely I would move for someone a lot better as well. Lets hope it's not the case.


Hmm, you're right, the cap does work. Seems I was wrong.
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Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:10 a.m.
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They already have a surplus of LD though even if Muzzin is done, also they won't know until February.

I could see them trade for Timmins if they don't like Mete's play, then run:

Gio-Liljegren
Benn-Holl
Sandin-Timmins

If they are still bad, then I think it would be better for them to look at Soucy, Gavrikov, or Jensen. If they need a big minutes eater then Klingberg. These guys are going to cost more than Rielly but smaller chance that it leads to future complications that could be costly.

Brodie had a set back but I think he's still week to week, so it really depends if they can stay afloat or not in the standings.


In an ideal world, I would love to go out and get good elite pairing RHD so Holl could be our 7th D. The problem is the market is crazy for RHD and would cost an arm and leg. Something I think the Leafs don't want go give up right now sadly
Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:13 a.m.
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In an ideal world, I would love to go out and get good elite pairing RHD so Holl could be our 7th D. The problem is the market is crazy for RHD and would cost an arm and leg. Something I think the Leafs don't want go give up right now sadly


If the season depends on it they may have to, Dubas should go the Reilly route or similar if teams are gouging.
Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:30 a.m.
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Well Rielly is on LTIR now, Mete and Hollowell got called up.
Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Those cards are all over the map, how do all these depth guys on decent teams who get waived are all super good players? Obviously those advance stats are not overly reliable.


You’ve officially made my favourite post on this site. Could not agree with you more. I will not dispute that some “advanced” stats have merit every now and then. But Jesus do some people take them as gospel on this site.
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Well Rielly is on LTIR now, Mete and Hollowell got called up.


Not at all what I wanted to hear, urgh. sounds like a MCL sprain, either a grade one or grade two.
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Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:39 a.m.
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
Right now, it's because every team is up against the cap. The Leafs with Muzzin on LTIR likely the rest of his career have 5.5 million in cap space to make this work.


You can do a lot better than an over priced depth defenceman.
Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
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Quoting: DrDinkiee
You’ve officially made my favourite post on this site. Could not agree with you more. I will not dispute that some “advanced” stats have merit every now and then. But Jesus do some people take them as gospel on this site.


And at the same time deny their usefulness when they show the opposite of what the poster wants. Advance stats only seem to matter when it helps ones argument. I still like Natural statrick because it gives you some meaningful information to help make certain things make sense. But Jfresh and others like him are all over the map. Good players on good teams somehow look bad but bad players on bad teams will look good for some reason. It's hard to follow.
Nov. 22, 2022 at 12:37 p.m.
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
This is why: His projected War is 89%
His EV offence is 94%
His EV defence is 74%

Guy is good and just doesn't have a spot on the B's. I also cant seem to post his card so apologies


If he was that good, why wasn't he claimed?
Nov. 22, 2022 at 12:40 p.m.
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I'll bite, and go along with you that he is good. I don't watch Bruins games so I can't argue how good/valuable he is.

It still doesn't change the fact that TOR is taking on 3M in cap and will need it off the books when Morgan Reilly comes back. Unless of course he's out for the rest of the regular season then I'd try and go after someone a step up from Mike Reilly.



I like mike Reilly him being waived was a cap move, B’s had a choice between him or Forbort to send down and considering guys like mcavoy, lindholm, grzelcyk are already good puck movers they stuck with Forbort a more defensive oriented guy. Are depth guys like stralman and zboril are also more offensive too
Nov. 22, 2022 at 1:18 p.m.
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I like mike Reilly him being waived was a cap move, B’s had a choice between him or Forbort to send down and considering guys like mcavoy, lindholm, grzelcyk are already good puck movers they stuck with Forbort a more defensive oriented guy. Are depth guys like stralman and zboril are also more offensive too


Was all cap, Behind Mcaovy and Lindhlom they did not need another puck moving D.
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