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Created by: swinny

Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 25, 2022

Published: Nov. 25, 2022

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Henrique, Adam ($2,900,000 retained)
Kulikov, Dmitry

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With the Ducks officially in the Bedard sweeps......

1. Henrique is simply not going to be part of the Ducks long term future. A very, very, serviceable top y forward who can play centre and plays 200 feet. I think Verbeek moves him if the Leafs offer up Robertson - who as this point for reasons unknown cannot stick in the line up.

Kulikov is going to be moved on an expiring deal..... and he is the type of D the Leafs need.

Leafs move Engvall simply because they have to (max # of contracts), and for the Ducks, is an NHL forward if they opt not to use a kid. Understood here that long term, Engvall is of no value to the Ducks short of trade fodder at the deadline for a late pick.

Since the Ducks are retaining on Henrique, and I feel that Roberston is more than enough to get him, as well as Kulikov netting a 3rd on his own, the 1st is moved to the retention.

ANA

Engvall, Pierre
Robertson, Nicholas
2024 1st round pick (TOR)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$71,954,996	$212,500	$0	$10,545,004

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bunting, Michael $950,000$950,000 LW UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 2	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 3
Henrique, Adam -$1,443,750-$1,443,750 LW, C M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 3	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 2
Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Kämpf, David $1,500,000$1,500,000 C UFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Aston-Reese, Zach $840,630$840,630 LW, RW UFA - 1	Holmberg, Pontus $827,500$827,500 C, LW RFA - 1	Simmonds, Wayne $900,000$900,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
		Malgin, Denis $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Sandin, Rasmus $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD UFA - 2	Holl, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Kulikov, Dmitry $1,125,000$1,125,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 2	Källgren, Erik $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 2	Timmins, Conor $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 1
Mete, Victor $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 2	Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 8
	Samsonov, Ilya $1,800,000$1,800,000 G UFA - 1	Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NTC UFA - 2
	Benn, Jordie $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Nov. 25, 2022 at 2:30 p.m.

GMBL

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They would probably need a bit more just because they are retaining for 2-years.

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Nov. 25, 2022 at 3:16 p.m.

swinny

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Quoting: GMBL

They would probably need a bit more just because they are retaining for 2-years.

What is the definition of a bit more?

I am not a fan of moving picks (although in this case you have to) as the Leafs, well, have none lol.

Nov. 25, 2022 at 3:24 p.m.

GMBL

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Quoting: swinny

What is the definition of a bit more?

I am not a fan of moving picks (although in this case you have to) as the Leafs, well, have none lol.

Idk, could be a pick or a prospect. Based of your analysis I wouldn't agree that Robertson is enough for Henrique because Anaheim is going to be greedy, especially because they are losing a retention spot next year. Yes, you did pay with the first for the retention itself but there's still some potential lost there.

I personally don't like that trade for the Leafs as is at all. If they are giving up Robertson, then they should be giving up more picks instead of the 1st.

Nov. 25, 2022 at 3:30 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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I would accept that offer as the Anaheim GM if the pick were the 2023 first-rounder.

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Nov. 25, 2022 at 3:39 p.m.

GMBL

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I would accept that offer as the Anaheim GM if the pick were the 2023 first-rounder.

Maybe if they added a 3rd instead to the above offer it would be attractive enough.

-Robertson+ 2024 1st for Henrique (overpay imo but it is what it is)
-The "3rd" for Kulikov should be considered paid for above but not necessarily, might require a late pick.
-3rd for the retention (instead of a 4th which would be the cost for retention if he was a ufa, so a 3rd instead of two 4ths)

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Nov. 25, 2022 at 3:49 p.m.

Trickster

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Quoting: swinny

What is the definition of a bit more?

I am not a fan of moving picks (although in this case you have to) as the Leafs, well, have none lol.

I'd add SDA to the trade and do it.

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Nov. 25, 2022 at 3:58 p.m.

oneX

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Quoting: Trickster

I'd add SDA to the trade and do it.

If that gets it done, I'm in.

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Nov. 25, 2022 at 4:34 p.m.

GeneralLandro

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2023 1st and Anaheim does it no doubt

may let you throw Holl in if you want that cap space as well

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Nov. 26, 2022 at 4:29 a.m.

GiggywithGibby

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You're analysis is correct, Henriques time on the team was signaled to be limited with the signings of Strome and Vatrano, and Kulikov is a pending UFA. As was mentioned by my fellow Anaheim fans, we are really looking for another 1st in this year's draft.

With respect to SDA, we really do not need any more center prospects, our average center age in our top 9 is only 21 years old. SDA does have experience on NA ice which Verbeek values, but he is rather lacking in size. I think we'd rather have a 3rd round pick than SDA, as we may start using our picks to try and trade for roster players were interested in.

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Nov. 26, 2022 at 6:22 a.m.

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I would accept that offer as the Anaheim GM if the pick were the 2023 first-rounder.

Then I'd accept immediately tbh. Add a 3rd to the original deal and I'd accept too.

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Nov. 26, 2022 at 8:30 a.m.

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swinny

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

Given the lack of Leaf picks, I am not a fan of moving a 3rd here, unless it includes a Kulikov extension.

Reluctant to move a 2023 1st here too. Deep draft, which is why the Ducks would value it. Get that. Why I opted to move Robertson...... simply a winger with the offensive upside that could be dynamic with Zegras. Even with limited time in Toronto, he looks to pace for a 40 point season which equals what Henrique would do. The hit here for the Ducks is defensive capabilities.

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