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Next year with Horvat

Created by: TMLBRIAN
Team: 2023-24 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 25, 2022
Published: Nov. 25, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Team looks really good in my mind. This is based on an 85m cap. It may be higher than this.

Thoughts?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,000,000
2$800,000
2$1,500,000
2$775,000
2$775,000
2$2,000,000
2$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,500,000
2$2,000,000
Trades
1.
COL
    Horvat TDL
    VAN
    1. Olausson, Oskar
    2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
    2.
    COL
    1. Brännström, Erik [RFA Rights]
    2. Formenton, Alex [RFA Rights]
    3. 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
    4. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
    Logo of the OTT
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    2024
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the OTT
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    2025
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the COL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$85,000,000$85,512,500$637,500$0-$512,500
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $12,600,000$12,600,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $9,250,000$9,250,000
    RW, C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    C
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $6,125,000$6,125,000
    RW, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LW
    RFA
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 4
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $1,050,000$1,050,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $775,000$775,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $800,000$800,000
    RW
    RFA
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $775,000$775,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $4,100,000$4,100,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    LD/RD, LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $987,500$987,500
    LD/RD, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $762,500$762,500
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1

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    Nov. 25, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.
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    That offer for Horvat probably gets beat
    Nov. 25, 2022 at 3:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: mv21227
    That offer for Horvat probably gets beat


    I added a 3rd when I made this trade from the Van side of things. So you are probably right :P. I see the fit for Colorado very strongly. Every Colorado fan disagrees with me though. They have been unconcerned with their number 2 C situation all off season and now. I see it as a clear need.
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    Nov. 25, 2022 at 3:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: TMLBRIAN
    I added a 3rd when I made this trade from the Van side of things. So you are probably right :P. I see the fit for Colorado very strongly. Every Colorado fan disagrees with me though. They have been unconcerned with their number 2 C situation all off season and now. I see it as a clear need.


    Ya I agree that they need to address 2C. I think the question becomes do they want a rental fix or something longer term.

    I wonder if Toews is a better option with a potential short term extension worked out after the season.
    Nov. 25, 2022 at 3:47 p.m.
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    I’d probably argue both Newhook and Byram are gonna get close to double that. And Rodrigues likely won’t sign for $2M again unless his injury is worse than we think.

    You also are an injury or two away from top 4 Kurtis MacDermid. That can’t happen.

    Depth here is really weak.
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    Nov. 25, 2022 at 4:35 p.m.
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    You have to think with kadri getting 7x7 last year with the season he had for us and having a stanley cup ring under his belt i doubt we're going to spend more on keeping horvat after half a season. I think we'd probily offer the same of 7mil by 8 years as landy has and if that's not in the cards we probily wouldn't make the trade for horvat.
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    Nov. 25, 2022 at 4:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
    You have to think with kadri getting 7x7 last year with the season he had for us and having a stanley cup ring under his belt i doubt we're going to spend more on keeping horvat after half a season. I think we'd probily offer the same of 7mil by 8 years as landy has and if that's not in the cards we probily wouldn't make the trade for horvat.


    That's fair. Cap will be going up substantially it seems this offseason though. That will make a huge impact on contracts.
    Nov. 25, 2022 at 4:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: TMLBRIAN
    That's fair. Cap will be going up substantially it seems this offseason though. That will make a huge impact on contracts.


    I agree, but i think from what we've seen with sakic he's pretty good about contracts for the team and i think before he hands another one to a 2C he's going to fill the roster similar to this year. If we're trying newhook this year, odds are we will be trying him again next year till he either handles the role or shows he can't and is moved out.
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    Nov. 25, 2022 at 4:55 p.m.
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    Neither Byram or Newhook are signing those deals. Formenton is so toxic right now OTT isn’t even offering him a contract. COL barely plays MacDermid as is ever on defense they aren’t running an entire season of him at d. He is arguably the worst dman in the league, but fits a combo role with the current team as the 13F, 7d enforcer guy loved in the locker room. And let’s be honest you gave Horvat a contract and just made up values that aren’t realistic for Byram and Newhook, what happens if COL has an injury in or two, who are they calling up?
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    Nov. 25, 2022 at 6:40 p.m.
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    Yeah, that's not even close to what Byram will be signed for and that's only for starters.
    Nov. 26, 2022 at 7:29 p.m.
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    Girard is great and everything but he is not what Ottawa needs at RD

    Plus :

    - Brannstrom has progressed even more this season, his analytics are great*

    - If Formenton was available for NHL hockey, don't worry the Sens would use him...

    - If Formenton value was restored, this package wouldn't be interesting to give up. Brannstrom and the 2 seconds but I personally wouldn't be interested in giving more



    Brannstrom among the 219 D-men who have at least played 100 ES minutes :

    - 22nd in CF/60
    - 25th in CF%
    - 21st in SF/60
    - 22nd in SF%
    - 7th in xGF/60
    - 21st in xGF%
    - 22nd in SCF/60
    - 15th in SCF%
    - 16th in HDCF/60
    - 47th in HDCF%
     
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