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Created by: Just_A_Guess
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 27, 2022
Published: Nov. 27, 2022
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Try to not bite my head off too quickly, just gauging interest after having a thought. Idk that something like this could ever occur but just looking for opinions to be sure.
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MTL
  1. Marino, John
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Is there any way a trade based on this could occur?
NJD
  1. Anderson, Josh
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Is there any way a trade based on this could occur?

Yes, I know NJD fans hate this idea. Just gauging interest to see how far off these 2 are and what would have to be included to make it happen.
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 8:08 a.m.
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I think this could happen, but MTL would want picks and/or prospects to balance this idea out.
Nov. 27, 2022 at 8:12 a.m.
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I think this could happen, but MTL would want picks and/or prospects to balance this idea out.


... You're kidding right?
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 8:26 a.m.
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No, Severson is the More Likely player out. Marino was brought in to replace Sevo and be there a long time, He has also been very good for them
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 8:38 a.m.
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Never gonna happen. He's having an incredible season. They won 13 in a row and he was a big part of that. He may be movable in the offseason for a ridiculous price, but he's not touchable this year where it looks like they can make a deep run.
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 8:57 a.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
No, Severson is the More Likely player out. Marino was brought in to replace Sevo and be there a long time, He has also been very good for them


What would have to happen to make a Severson/Anderson trade happen in your opinion?
Nov. 27, 2022 at 8:58 a.m.
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Never gonna happen. He's having an incredible season. They won 13 in a row and he was a big part of that. He may be movable in the offseason for a ridiculous price, but he's not touchable this year where it looks like they can make a deep run.


What about Severson instead?
Nov. 27, 2022 at 9:19 a.m.
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Marino is too valuable to the Devils blueline, so I can't see them moving him.
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 9:27 a.m.
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If it were me I would be looking at Alexander Holtz and a 3rd RD for Anderson. Holtz has upside for sure, however, they are pretty set on the Right side with players of his style of hockey, the thing Jersey is missing is the Sandpaper, someone who hits plays hard and will fight. Mercer Brett and Bastian arent that type of player. Maybe thats why the interest in Anderson. So if it were me I would Holtz is who I would target.
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 9:28 a.m.
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What lmao, NJ has zero reason to make this trade and that's an insane overpay by NJ, Anderson is a dime a dozen and isn't worth much.
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 9:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Armchair75
If it were me I would be looking at Alexander Holtz and a 3rd RD for Anderson. Holtz has upside for sure, however, they are pretty set on the Right side with players of his style of hockey, the thing Jersey is missing is the Sandpaper, someone who hits plays hard and will fight. Mercer Brett and Bastian arent that type of player. Maybe thats why the interest in Anderson. So if it were me I would Holtz is who I would target.


I hope you're kidding, I really do. You are not getting an A prospect in any scenario for a third/fourth line grinder. Max you end up with is a second rounder.
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 10:04 a.m.
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Quoting: CalvinKlein
Marino is too valuable to the Devils blueline, so I can't see them moving him.


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What about Severson instead?
Nov. 27, 2022 at 10:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Armchair75
If it were me I would be looking at Alexander Holtz and a 3rd RD for Anderson. Holtz has upside for sure, however, they are pretty set on the Right side with players of his style of hockey, the thing Jersey is missing is the Sandpaper, someone who hits plays hard and will fight. Mercer Brett and Bastian arent that type of player. Maybe thats why the interest in Anderson. So if it were me I would Holtz is who I would target.


Saying Bastian isn't that type of player is silly - dude hits (50 in 21 GP) and has 1 of the 3 fighting majors the Devils have received this year. They also have Miles Wood, another sandpaper guy who is capable of fighting - and both of those dudes have been more productive than Anderson. And if they really need a bruiser, they've got Brendan Smith on the roster - so I'm not sure where you're getting this idea that Jersey is soft?
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 10:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Erkadurk347
Tell me you don’t know hockey without telling me you don’t know hockey


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I hope you're kidding, I really do. You are not getting an A prospect in any scenario for a third/fourth line grinder. Max you end up with is a second rounder.


Erkadurk someone with less hockey knowledge than the guy you quote lmao
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 10:27 a.m.
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Saying Bastian isn't that type of player is silly - dude hits (50 in 21 GP) and has 1 of the 3 fighting majors the Devils have received this year. They also have Miles Wood, another sandpaper guy who is capable of fighting - and both of those dudes have been more productive than Anderson. And if they really need a bruiser, they've got Brendan Smith on the roster - so I'm not sure where you're getting this idea that Jersey is soft?


Ok maybe they have some grit but what i said WAS, on the Right Side, I understand they have Wood and Smith and such, Bastien yes has more points than Anderson this year, but Anderson has scored more goals, played more has more experience, than even Wood has. Anderson is no bum, given the right players he could be a 30 goal scorer. Anyway I wasnt saying Jersey has no grit I just meant on the Right side.
Nov. 27, 2022 at 11:27 a.m.
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Marino is a top 4 defenseman who plays the hardest minutes against the likes of Connor McDavid and co.
Josh Anderson is an oft injured 3rd and 4th Liner with a terrible contract, has only scored 20 goals one time, and has terrible underlyings on top of all that.

MTL would need to add an actual centerpiece to the trade, and sweetener to take on that contract
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 12:23 p.m.
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Marino is a top 4 defenseman who plays the hardest minutes against the likes of Connor McDavid and co.
Josh Anderson is an oft injured 3rd and 4th Liner with a terrible contract, has only scored 20 goals one time, and has terrible underlyings on top of all that.

MTL would need to add an actual centerpiece to the trade, and sweetener to take on that contract


I get that you can't see JA's value, but you're overcompensating the other direction by quite a bit.
Nov. 27, 2022 at 12:31 p.m.
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I get that you can't see JA's value, but you're overcompensating the other direction by quite a bit.


Is it because he has such little value?
Nov. 27, 2022 at 12:33 p.m.
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Is it because he has such little value?


Further showing you don't have an understanding of his value.
Nov. 27, 2022 at 12:41 p.m.
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Further showing you don't have an understanding of his value.


JA’s Bad traditional stats+bad underlyings+bad contract=bad value
You can absolutely expand on your own thought instead
Nov. 27, 2022 at 12:48 p.m.
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JA’s Bad traditional stats+bad underlyings+bad contract=bad value
You can absolutely expand on your own thought instead


A middle 6, ~40pt/82gm pace power forward making middle 6 winger type money. Sounds like terrible value to me yep mhmm...
Nov. 27, 2022 at 1:19 p.m.
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Marino, a bonifided top 4 shutdown dman, has significantly more value than Anderson, a 3rd liner on a massive contract
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 1:22 p.m.
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A middle 6, ~40pt
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A middle 6, ~40pt/82gm pace power forward making middle 6 winger type money. Sounds like terrible value to me yep mhmm...


His current 30 point pace would be less than all but one of NJ’s regular forwards, Jesper Boqvist who has 4 points in 16 games. Considering he’s only playing because of Palat’s injury, and if you’re only looking at point totals, Josh Anderson could very well look like a 13th/14th forward here
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 1:28 p.m.
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A middle 6, ~40pt/82gm pace power forward making middle 6 winger type money. Sounds like terrible value to me yep mhmm...


I’m just redoing this comment, since definitely effed up above

His current 30 point pace would be less than all but one of NJ’s regular forwards, Jesper Boqvist who has 4 points in 16 games. Considering he’s only playing because of Palat’s injury, and if you’re only looking at point totals, Josh Anderson could very well look like a 13th/14th forward
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Nov. 27, 2022 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
Erkadurk someone with less hockey knowledge than the guy you quote lmao
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Huh? Anyone who thinks marino is even up for discussion is crazy. Let alone returning him for Anderson
Nov. 27, 2022 at 2:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Erkadurk347
Huh? Anyone who thinks marino is even up for discussion is crazy. Let alone returning him for Anderson


Hmm
Which one is worse :
Anderson vs Marino + NJ add
Anderson is a 3rd/4th line grinder and isn’t worth more than a 2nd round pick

Ok both are terrible but I have to agree, Marino + for Anderson might be a worse take 😆
 
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