Chychrun Horvat

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Created by: JLance

Team: 2022-23 Buffalo Sabres

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 28, 2022

Published: Nov. 28, 2022

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The Sabres are not the kind of team that will buy a rental. A trade for Horvat will come with a guarantee from his agent that he is interested in re-signing. I'm sure I'll be verbally abused by Canucks fans and the two Yotes fans that exist.

Finding a comparable for Chychrun is a challenge. I think Weegar would be close if he was dealt alone. Alexander Romanov and Rasmus Ristolainen may be in the recent ballpark here. Chychrun is worth more, so he gets a 1st, 2nd (Risto), a top 4 young defensemen and a well regarded prospect.

Horvat as a rental gets some picks, a middle 6 center and a projected top 9 prospect. As a rental, the offer is likely fair but the Canucks are probably only considering a 1st round pick and that's not something the Sabres should even consider.

Trades

BUF

Chychrun, Jakob
2024 2nd round pick (MTL)

ARI

Jokiharju, Henri
Rousek, Lukas
2023 2nd round pick (PHI)
2024 1st round pick (BUF)

Additional Details:

Top 10 Prot

BUF

Horvat, Bo

VAN

Bloom, Josh
Mittelstadt, Casey
2023 2nd round pick (BUF)
2023 5th round pick (BUF)

Buyouts

Cody Hodgson: $791,667
Christian Ehrhoff: $0

Buried

Anders Bjork: $475,000 ($1,600,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$67,026,667	$0	$3,620,000	$15,473,333

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Skinner, Jeff $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 5	Thompson, Tage $1,400,000$1,400,000 C UFA - 1	Tuch, Alex $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Olofsson, Victor $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Horvat, Bo $4,125,000$4,125,000 C UFA - 1	Krebs, Peyton $863,333$863,333 ($412,500$412K) C, LW RFA - 2
Quinn, Jack $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 3	Cozens, Dylan $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) C, LW UFA - 1	Peterka, John-Jason $855,833$855,833 ($82,500$82K) LW, RW RFA - 3
Girgensons, Zemgus $2,200,000$2,200,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Jost, Tyson $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 1	Okposo, Kyle $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Asplund, Rasmus $825,000$825,000 LW, C RFA - 1		Hinostroza, Vinnie $1,700,000$1,700,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dahlin, Rasmus $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Samuelsson, Mattias $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 1	Anderson, Craig $1,500,000$1,500,000 ($500,000$500K) G UFA - 1
Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Power, Owen $916,667$916,667 ($925,000$925K) LD/RD UFA - 2	Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka $837,500$837,500 G RFA - 2
Pilut, Lawrence $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1	Lyubushkin, Ilya $687,500$687,500 RD UFA - 2
	Fitzgerald, Casey $750,000$750,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Bishop, Ben $4,916,667$4,916,667 G M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
	Bryson, Jacob $1,850,000$1,850,000 LD/RD RFA - 2
	Comrie, Eric $1,800,000$1,800,000 G UFA - 2

Nov. 28, 2022 at 10:08 a.m.

Juiceman

Ex Nucks fan

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Horvat is worth a first and A prospect. Those other pieces aren’t needed

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Nov. 28, 2022 at 10:14 a.m.

palhal

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Canucks may get more in a trade, but this and any sign and trade usually is bad value. And really the Sabres have ":lots" of young centres. Though Horvat would be help immediately, is he really needed?
Why Chychrun? Sabres have plenty of LHD.

Nov. 28, 2022 at 10:24 a.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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The horvat stuff is really puzzling to see.

We have Thompson and cozens (and alot of young players after) and aren't a contender yet to add a player who will leave his prime quickly after signing

palhal liked this.

Nov. 28, 2022 at 10:25 a.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: palhal

Dahlin plays rhd and power can too. I don't hate the idea as long as thr price isn't crazy.

He has term, a good aav and is young enough to fit the roster

Nov. 28, 2022 at 10:26 a.m.

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

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Both Arizona and Vancouver pass big time, Not the pieces that either is seeking for Chychrun and Horvat deal.

Nov. 28, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.

JLance

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Quoting: Juiceman

Horvat is worth a first and A prospect. Those other pieces aren’t needed

I figure as much, please read the description.

Nov. 28, 2022 at 10:32 a.m.

JLance

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Quoting: palhal

The Sabres have been rumored to like him for a long time. Even the local news confirmed the rumors. Marek and Friedman describe why it would be a good idea, especially if he can play RD.

The Sabres would diversify their center talent with Horvat, with our closest player probably being Cozens. The Sabres have some nice center prospects but NHL level, we could use one more.

Nov. 28, 2022 at 10:33 a.m.

JLance

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

The horvat stuff is really puzzling to see.

We have Thompson and cozens (and alot of young players after) and aren't a contender yet to add a player who will leave his prime quickly after signing

That's certainly a thought, but I think Horvat and an addition like Chychrun gets us close or into playoff contention in the next year. Cause Mitts aint it.

Nov. 28, 2022 at 10:35 a.m.

JLance

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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

Both Arizona and Vancouver pass big time, Not the pieces that either is seeking for Chychrun and Horvat deal.

I can understand Canucks passing, I don't think the Sabres can offer a 1st. They have a lot of prospects to dangle so maybe that direction is chosen. However, the Coyotes would gladly take more young pieces. If they'd like a Rosen or a Kulich instead of that 1st, fine.

Nov. 28, 2022 at 12:01 p.m.

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Mike_Gartner

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imagine buffalo trading for Chychrun and Horvat and somehow still own Krebs, Quinn, JJP.
even still have Savoie, Rosen and Levi.

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