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Is Ryan Whitney an idiot or a genius

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Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 28, 2022
Published: Nov. 28, 2022
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Ryan Whitney on Spittin Chiclets believes that the Bruins can get in on Kane with this tweet - https://twitter.com/ryanwhitney6/status/1597292666949365760?cxt=HHwWgMDT_ffN3KosAAAA

Whit believes the Bruins are all in this year as a dominant team in the NHL.
Please add any prospects/draft picks that need to make this trade happen. I'll start with 2 1sts.

Feel free to add if Whit is an idiot or a genius.
Trades
BOS
  1. Kane, Patrick
Additional Details:
50% retained (5,250,000)
CHI
  1. Reilly, Mike
  2. Smith, Craig
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
  4. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$78,104,167$0$4,650,000$4,395,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,800,000$3,800,000
LW, C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$2,000,000$2M)
C
NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC, NMC
UFA - 8
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 8
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$3,687,500$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$4,100,000$4,100,000
RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,137,500$1,137,500
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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Nov. 28, 2022 at 3:05 p.m.
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I don’t think it makes much sense, but it’s worth thinking about.

Two firsts for any rental is too much in my book. Maybe if there was double retention.
Nov. 28, 2022 at 3:05 p.m.
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2 dumps and they retain 50%?

Keep adding
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Nov. 28, 2022 at 3:09 p.m.
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There are other teams that will be willing to give up more, and the Bruins prospect pool feels somewhat shallow.

Unless Chicago is willing to take Mitchell Miller 😬
Nov. 28, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.
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It was originally a jimmy Murphy rumor. Anyone using Murphy as a source is an idiot.
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Nov. 28, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.
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Expect all in from last hurrah BOS and desperate EDM & TOR
Nov. 28, 2022 at 3:11 p.m.
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Whit is an idiot overall but thinking BOS might be in for a big splash at the TDL is probably right. They’ll have to juggle the cap tho so it’ll cost quite a bit.
Nov. 28, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
2 dumps and they retain 50%?

Keep adding


Quoting: DoBap
There are other teams that will be willing to give up more, and the Bruins prospect pool feels somewhat shallow.

Unless Chicago is willing to take Mitchell Miller 😬


Are we there yet? Usually there’s a point in the season where somehow everyone on this forum except a select few just collectively forget what rentals cost. I didn’t think we were there yet this year, but maybe it came around early.
Nov. 28, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.
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Two players Chicago doesn't want and 2 really late 1sts. Kane needs scorers on his line. He has fewer goals than Jason Dickinson. Is he really a fit in Boston?
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Nov. 28, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.
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Ryan Whitney is absolutely an idiot. You don't even need him to open his gob to tell that he's a cement head, you just need to look into his dead eyes to tell there's no higher level thought happening there.

That said, if Boston can clear the cap space (big if right now) they have absolutely no reason not to be in on Kane. There's no tomorrow for this group, they should be in on anyone who might help them win.
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Nov. 28, 2022 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Are we there yet? Usually there’s a point in the season where somehow everyone on this forum except a select few just collectively forget what rentals cost. I didn’t think we were there yet this year, but maybe it came around early.


Ristolainen was a rental. He cost Haag, a cap dump, a 1st, #14 OA and a 2nd this year, probably in the 30s OA. He's nowhere near the player Kane used to be.
Nov. 28, 2022 at 3:41 p.m.
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Whitney is an idiot, to answer your question
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Nov. 28, 2022 at 3:46 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Are we there yet? Usually there’s a point in the season where somehow everyone on this forum except a select few just collectively forget what rentals cost. I didn’t think we were there yet this year, but maybe it came around early.


This package isn't getting Kane. Two very late 1sts are nothing more then a bag of magic beans, then adding 2 big cap dumps? No, that's not getting it done. The likely package for Kane 1/2 retained is a late 1st, a very good/top prospect, maybe a young'ish NHL player as well, and cap dump(s) going back to the Hawks.

Start with Giroux last year, then realize Kane is a better player especially in the playoffs, and probably not going to pigeon-hole the Hawks to waiving for 1 team only.
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Nov. 28, 2022 at 4:18 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Are we there yet? Usually there’s a point in the season where somehow everyone on this forum except a select few just collectively forget what rentals cost. I didn’t think we were there yet this year, but maybe it came around early.


You are asking them to retain 50% and sending them 2 cap dumps, one with term.
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Nov. 28, 2022 at 4:46 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
You are asking them to retain 50% and sending them 2 cap dumps, one with term.


Reilly is a good player. There would be no problem moving him for assets in the off-season when everyone isn’t hard against the cap. He’s worth the $3M.

Two firsts for a rental isn’t really a thing.
Nov. 28, 2022 at 4:47 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
This package isn't getting Kane. Two very late 1sts are nothing more then a bag of magic beans, then adding 2 big cap dumps? No, that's not getting it done. The likely package for Kane 1/2 retained is a late 1st, a very good/top prospect, maybe a young'ish NHL player as well, and cap dump(s) going back to the Hawks.

Start with Giroux last year, then realize Kane is a better player especially in the playoffs, and probably not going to pigeon-hole the Hawks to waiving for 1 team only.


Alright. So that answers that. The question is answered. We are at the point in the year where people forget what rental trades look like.
Nov. 28, 2022 at 4:49 p.m.
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Ristolainen was a rental. He cost Haag, a cap dump, a 1st, #14 OA and a 2nd this year, probably in the 30s OA. He's nowhere near the player Kane used to be.


It wasn’t a 1st, and 14 overall, which is what your statement reads like.

Also a completely different trade as it was in the off-season.

That trade also sucked.

A year of Robert hagg at $1.6M isn’t exactly a earth shattering cap dump.
Nov. 28, 2022 at 4:49 p.m.
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Alright. So that answers that. The question is answered. We are at the point in the year where people forget what rental trades look like.


So Giroux's situation contextually doesn't mean anything...got it LOL
Nov. 28, 2022 at 4:51 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
2 dumps and they retain 50%?

Keep adding


2 firsts for a rental is insane. Chicago should take that and run
Nov. 28, 2022 at 4:52 p.m.
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BOS should hold onto next years 1st, the wheels on the bus could fall off at any point after this year.

The package should look more like Merkulov + 2023 1st + 2025 2nd
Nov. 28, 2022 at 4:54 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
This package isn't getting Kane. Two very late 1sts are nothing more then a bag of magic beans, then adding 2 big cap dumps? No, that's not getting it done. The likely package for Kane 1/2 retained is a late 1st, a very good/top prospect, maybe a young'ish NHL player as well, and cap dump(s) going back to the Hawks.

Start with Giroux last year, then realize Kane is a better player especially in the playoffs, and probably not going to pigeon-hole the Hawks to waiving for 1 team only.


So a half year of kane is worth an eichel package?
Nov. 28, 2022 at 5:08 p.m.
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Next year Boston is gonna have to prepare for the departure of Bergeron and Krejci who are most likely gonna retire.

Boston should just keep the assets and just play it out. They win great, they lose oh well got draft picks to use for the future retool
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Nov. 28, 2022 at 5:10 p.m.
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Any trade that brings Kane to Boston puts him in idiot mode.
Nov. 28, 2022 at 5:17 p.m.
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So a half year of kane is worth an eichel package?


Context matters; Eichel was having an uproven surgery, carrying one of the biggest cap hits in the league while being traded 1/3rd into the season when vary few teams had cap space, in open dispute with his team, has been a problem for management in Buffalo, way too many risks in that scenario. Just look at how many teams were interested in Eichel....2? Bad comparison

Like I said, start with Giroux and we all know Kane is better player and even better playoff acquisition then Giroux and you'll understand why a late 1st and underperforming top prospect certainly isn't out fo the cards.
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Nov. 28, 2022 at 5:52 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
So Giroux's situation contextually doesn't mean anything...got it LOL


Giroux didn’t two firsts.
Nov. 28, 2022 at 5:53 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Context matters; Eichel was having an uproven surgery, carrying one of the biggest cap hits in the league while being traded 1/3rd into the season when vary few teams had cap space, in open dispute with his team, has been a problem for management in Buffalo, way too many risks in that scenario. Just look at how many teams were interested in Eichel....2? Bad comparison

Like I said, start with Giroux and we all know Kane is better player and even better playoff acquisition then Giroux and you'll understand why a late 1st and underperforming top prospect certainly isn't out fo the cards.

Are you expecting the return to kane to be the highest rental return in NHL history? Not meant to be rhetorical, genuinely asking.
 
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