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Created by: NotDougWilson

Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 28, 2022

Published: Nov. 28, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Ryan Whitney on Spittin Chiclets believes that the Bruins can get in on Kane with this tweet - https://twitter.com/ryanwhitney6/status/1597292666949365760?cxt=HHwWgMDT_ffN3KosAAAA

Whit believes the Bruins are all in this year as a dominant team in the NHL.
Please add any prospects/draft picks that need to make this trade happen. I'll start with 2 1sts.

Feel free to add if Whit is an idiot or a genius.

Trades

BOS

Kane, Patrick

Additional Details:

50% retained (5,250,000)

CHI

Reilly, Mike
Smith, Craig
2023 1st round pick (BOS)
2024 1st round pick (BOS)

Buried

Chris Wagner: $225,000 ($1,350,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$78,104,167	$0	$4,650,000	$4,395,833

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Marchand, Brad $6,125,000$6,125,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Coyle, Charlie $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Pastrnak, David $6,666,667$6,666,667 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Hall, Taylor $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Bergeron, Patrice $2,500,000$2,500,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C NMC UFA - 1	DeBrusk, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Foligno, Nick $3,800,000$3,800,000 LW, C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Nosek, Tomas $1,750,000$1,750,000 LW, C UFA - 1
Zacha, Pavel $3,500,000$3,500,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Frederic, Trent $1,050,000$1,050,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Greer, AJ $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 2	Krejci, David $1,000,000$1,000,000 ($2,000,000$2M) C NTC UFA - 1	Kane, Patrick $2,625,000$2,625,000 RW NMC UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindholm, Hampus $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD NTC, NMC UFA - 8	McAvoy, Charlie $9,500,000$9,500,000 RD UFA - 8	Ullmark, Linus $5,000,000$5,000,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Grzelcyk, Matt $3,687,500$3,687,500 LD UFA - 2	Carlo, Brandon $4,100,000$4,100,000 RD UFA - 5	Swayman, Jeremy $925,000$925,000 ($150,000$150K) G RFA - 1
Zboril, Jakub $1,137,500$1,137,500 LD/RD UFA - 2	Strålman, Anton $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD UFA - 1
Clifton, Connor $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Forbort, Derek $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2

Nov. 28, 2022 at 5:54 p.m.

#26

ChiHawk

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

Are you expecting the return to kane to be the highest rental return in NHL history? Not meant to be rhetorical, genuinely asking.

I expect it to be slightly better (subjective to a degree based on the prospect or young player included) as Giroux

Nov. 28, 2022 at 5:54 p.m.

#27

ON3M4N

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Quoting: DoBap

There are other teams that will be willing to give up more, and the Bruins prospect pool feels somewhat shallow.

Unless Chicago is willing to take Mitchell Miller 😬

Other teams likely give up more....but Kane has a NMC and picks his destination. A team could offer the great package of all-time, a real no brainer and if Kane says no I'm not going the, well the package doesn't matter

Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:04 p.m.

#28

DoBap

Do Bap

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Quoting: ON3M4N

That's true. Don't know Kane personally, but I'm sure he'd approve a trade to any team he genuinely believes to be a true contender.

ON3M4N liked this.

Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:10 p.m.

#29

littlejerryseinfeld

Joined: Nov. 2017

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

Reilly is a good player. There would be no problem moving him for assets in the off-season when everyone isn’t hard against the cap. He’s worth the $3M.

Two firsts for a rental isn’t really a thing.

He just went unclaimed on waivers.

Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:17 p.m.

#30

Riley816

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

It wasn’t a 1st, and 14 overall, which is what your statement reads like.

Also a completely different trade as it was in the off-season.

Quoting: DefenseFirst

It wasn’t a 1st, and 14 overall, which is what your statement reads like.

Also a completely different trade as it was in the off-season.

That trade also sucked.

A year of Robert hagg at $1.6M isn’t exactly a earth shattering cap dump.

That trade also sucked.

A year of Robert hagg at $1.6M isn’t exactly a earth shattering cap dump.

I don't see an 'and' in my statement. Might be missing a comma but nowhere is there an and.

Most trades do suck. Hall has been in 3 of them. Hall for Larsson. Hall for #18 OA, Bahl and a 3rd +. And Hall for Bjork and a 2nd.

Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:24 p.m.

#31

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: Riley816

That trade also sucked.

A year of Robert hagg at $1.6M isn’t exactly a earth shattering cap dump.

I don't see an 'and' in my statement. Might be missing a comma but nowhere is there an and.

Most trades do suck. Hall has been in 3 of them. Hall for Larsson. Hall for #18 OA, Bahl and a 3rd +. And Hall for Bjork and a 2nd.

You made a list, and referenced a first, the 14th overall, bunch of other stuff.

Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:25 p.m.

#32

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

He just went unclaimed on waivers.

I’m well aware. Read my statement again.

Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:26 p.m.

#33

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: ChiHawk

I expect it to be slightly better (subjective to a degree based on the prospect or young player included) as Giroux

This is much better than what giroux got.

Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:44 p.m.

#34

ChiHawk

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

This is much better than what giroux got.

2 late 1sts and 2 cap dumps is not. Late 1sts historically have a 30% of turning into a fulltime NHL player, they are a bag of magic beans

Nov. 28, 2022 at 6:54 p.m.

#35

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: ChiHawk

2 late 1sts and 2 cap dumps is not. Late 1sts historically have a 30% of turning into a fulltime NHL player, they are a bag of magic beans

Right. Philly got one late first. This is for two late firsts. Philly also moved a former first rounder and a 5th to facilitate it. Philly also retained 50%.

Nov. 29, 2022 at 1:37 a.m.

#36

ChiHawk

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

Right. Philly got one late first. This is for two late firsts. Philly also moved a former first rounder and a 5th to facilitate it. Philly also retained 50%.

Philly also got Owen Tippet who they probably valued quite a bit, a former #10 OA who wasn't living up to the hype in Florida.

Nov. 29, 2022 at 6:40 a.m.

#37

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: ChiHawk

Philly also got Owen Tippet who they probably valued quite a bit, a former #10 OA who wasn't living up to the hype in Florida.

The 23 year old AHLer? Throw in.

Nov. 29, 2022 at 11:04 a.m.

#38

ChiHawk

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

The 23 year old AHLer? Throw in.

He's not an AHL'er; has 10 points in 17 games this season with 6 goals. Obviously Philly saw something in him that Florida did not

Nov. 29, 2022 at 12:48 p.m.

#39

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: ChiHawk

He's not an AHL'er; has 10 points in 17 games this season with 6 goals. Obviously Philly saw something in him that Florida did not

Right, and he could go on to be the greatest hockey player of all time…but when he was traded, he was a 23 year old AHLer.

Nov. 29, 2022 at 12:57 p.m.

#40

ChiHawk

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

Right, and he could go on to be the greatest hockey player of all time…but when he was traded, he was a 23 year old AHLer.

He still had 42 games in the NHL last season versus 12 games in the AHL for Florida so that's not true.

Nov. 29, 2022 at 1:56 p.m.

#41

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: ChiHawk

He still had 42 games in the NHL last season versus 12 games in the AHL for Florida so that's not true.

And where was he at the time of the trade? The AHL, because he had sucked in the NHL.

Nov. 29, 2022 at 1:59 p.m.

#42

ChiHawk

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

And where was he at the time of the trade? The AHL, because he had sucked in the NHL.

That doesn't make him a "AHLer" because he was sent down for a handful of games on a very deep team waiting for him to be moved out.

Nov. 29, 2022 at 2:01 p.m.

#43

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: ChiHawk

That doesn't make him a "AHLer" because he was sent down for a handful of games on a very deep team waiting for him to be moved out.

So now you’re saying a 23 year old that was unsuccessful in the NHL and therefore demoted to the AHL isn’t an AHLer. Yeesh.

Nov. 29, 2022 at 2:06 p.m.

#44

ChiHawk

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

So now you’re saying a 23 year old that was unsuccessful in the NHL and therefore demoted to the AHL isn’t an AHLer. Yeesh.

LMAO no I'm saying a guy that played 63 games in the NHL and 12 games in the AHL last season hardly makes him a AHLer Yeesh

Nov. 29, 2022 at 2:09 p.m.

#45

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: ChiHawk

LMAO no I'm saying a guy that played 63 games in the NHL and 12 games in the AHL last season hardly makes him a AHLer Yeesh

At the time of the trade was he in the AHL because he wasn’t playing well enough to be rostered on the NHL team?

Nov. 29, 2022 at 2:16 p.m.

#46

ChiHawk

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

At the time of the trade was he in the AHL because he wasn’t playing well enough to be rostered on the NHL team?

On a very deep Florida team, it's highly situational based on a individual team need and or if a player goes into a slump teams will do that as a confidence builder...not that uncommon. 12 AHL games versus 63 NHL games hardly makes him a AHLer...not rocket science here. Now he has 6 goals, 10 points in 17 games this season. He's not a bust AHLer and Philly knew that.

Nov. 29, 2022 at 2:17 p.m.

#47

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: ChiHawk

It was 42, not 63. So he was in the AHL because he couldn’t play well enough to be in the NHL but he wasn’t an AHLer, got it. You seem very rational.

Nov. 29, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.

#48

ChiHawk

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

It was 42, not 63. So he was in the AHL because he couldn’t play well enough to be in the NHL but he wasn’t an AHLer, got it. You seem very rational.

42 games versus 12 games makes him a AHLer...got it. YOU seem incredibly irrational

Nov. 29, 2022 at 2:38 p.m.

#49

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: ChiHawk

42 games versus 12 games makes him a AHLer...got it. YOU seem incredibly irrational

Was he in the AHL?

Nov. 29, 2022 at 2:43 p.m.

#50

ChiHawk

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

Was he in the AHL?

You're a piece of work LMAO

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