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Deadline deals part 4

Created by: MSZUDY21
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 29, 2022
Published: Nov. 29, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Muzzin on LTIR and potentially retires
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$850,000
Trades
1.
2.
3.
TOR
  1. 2023 5th round pick (WPG)
4.
FLA
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the TOR
2024
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the OTT
2025
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$81,173,746$212,500$0$1,326,254

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$840,630$840,630
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$2,400,000$2,400,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$827,500$827,500
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Nov. 29, 2022 at 4:18 p.m.
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I like the Domi trade.
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Nov. 29, 2022 at 4:37 p.m.
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NSH declines easily
Nov. 29, 2022 at 4:38 p.m.
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Hawks decline. Kerfoot is a cap dump to the Hawks whether Leafs fans think he has value or not. You can't trade a cap dump and expect not to pay the Hawks for taking on the hit. Abruzzesse simply isn't enough to get Domi and dump Kerfoot.
Nov. 29, 2022 at 8:17 p.m.
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Hawks decline. Kerfoot is a cap dump to the Hawks whether Leafs fans think he has value or not. You can't trade a cap dump and expect not to pay the Hawks for taking on the hit. Abruzzesse simply isn't enough to get Domi and dump Kerfoot.


Would you give a bag of pucks for Kerfoot.: smirk
Nov. 29, 2022 at 8:18 p.m.
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Would you give a bag of pucks for Kerfoot.: smirk


Leafs should trade him elsewhere if they believe he has value versus including him to a rebuilding team where there will be perceived negative value
Nov. 29, 2022 at 8:23 p.m.
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Leafs should trade him elsewhere if they believe he has value versus including him to a rebuilding team where there will be perceived negative value


Agree, I think he has Zero value and is the most overrated leaf in the past 10 years. Anyone who gets to play with the leafs big 4 full-time gets 51 points.
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Nov. 30, 2022 at 3:30 p.m.
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Quoting: OkMan
NSH declines easily


What would a counter offer be in your opinion ?
Nov. 30, 2022 at 3:32 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Hawks decline. Kerfoot is a cap dump to the Hawks whether Leafs fans think he has value or not. You can't trade a cap dump and expect not to pay the Hawks for taking on the hit. Abruzzesse simply isn't enough to get Domi and dump Kerfoot.


So the Hawks are tanking for Bedard. Domi makes $3,000,000 and Kerf only makes 500,000 more. They can play the same situation and both are UFAs so ultimately the deal is for the prospect and the Hawks can wipe their hands clean in the offseason if they want to and clear $3.5 M off the books. They won't be good for a few years so collecting prospects should work for them. Maybe a different prospect. What would a counter be in your opinion ?
Nov. 30, 2022 at 3:57 p.m.
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So the Hawks are tanking for Bedard. Domi makes $3,000,000 and Kerf only makes 500,000 more. They can play the same situation and both are UFAs so ultimately the deal is for the prospect and the Hawks can wipe their hands clean in the offseason if they want to and clear $3.5 M off the books. They won't be good for a few years so collecting prospects should work for them. Maybe a different prospect. What would a counter be in your opinion ?


Domi is worth a late 2nd or basically Abruzzesse. Adding Kerfoot is doing the Leafs a favor, why would the Hawks take back a useless player knowing the other team needs to move cap out? In other words, Domi is getting traded for that type of value whether to the Leafs or elsewhere, it's not as if the Leafs are the only option, which if they were your rationale makes sense but they aren't. Moving cap out to a team that views the player as useless requires payment to that team, aka cap dump. Leafs will probably need to include a 4th rounder to move Kerfoot to the Hawks, but more importantly, the Leafs should look to a team that would value Kerfoot and get something in return for him even if it it's only a 4th or 5th rounder.
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Nov. 30, 2022 at 4:46 p.m.
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What would a counter offer be in your opinion ?


Just make Robertson a 2023 or 2024 1st and then add a fifth to make up for taking on Holl
Dec. 1, 2022 at 3:14 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Domi is worth a late 2nd or basically Abruzzesse. Adding Kerfoot is doing the Leafs a favor, why would the Hawks take back a useless player knowing the other team needs to move cap out? In other words, Domi is getting traded for that type of value whether to the Leafs or elsewhere, it's not as if the Leafs are the only option, which if they were your rationale makes sense but they aren't. Moving cap out to a team that views the player as useless requires payment to that team, aka cap dump. Leafs will probably need to include a 4th rounder to move Kerfoot to the Hawks, but more importantly, the Leafs should look to a team that would value Kerfoot and get something in return for him even if it it's only a 4th or 5th rounder.


I understand what you are saying. I guess the main thought I had was that Domi likely won't be resigning in Chicago and is essentially a rental. I'm not sure I agree he's worth a 2nd but I would do the deal for Abruzzese straight up. The Leafs could take a similar approach with Kerf as a rental for a middle prospect in a separate deal to make the cap work.
Dec. 1, 2022 at 3:33 p.m.
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I understand what you are saying. I guess the main thought I had was that Domi likely won't be resigning in Chicago and is essentially a rental. I'm not sure I agree he's worth a 2nd but I would do the deal for Abruzzese straight up. The Leafs could take a similar approach with Kerf as a rental for a middle prospect in a separate deal to make the cap work.


He's got 16 points in 22 games including 7 goals on a very bad team. With 50% retained, that gets a late 2nd all day long. He's without question an upgrade to Kerfoot who's on a $500K more cap hit, but admitingly Kerfoot is a better defender
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Dec. 2, 2022 at 3:23 p.m.
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He's got 16 points in 22 games including 7 goals on a very bad team. With 50% retained, that gets a late 2nd all day long. He's without question an upgrade to Kerfoot who's on a $500K more cap hit, but admitingly Kerfoot is a better defender


Agreed if the contract is 50% retained.
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