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Created by: BuckRogers

Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 30, 2022

Published: Nov. 30, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$82,500,000	$81,306,548	$0	$4,450,000	$1,193,452

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 6	Giroux, Claude $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 3	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
Stützle, Tim $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 1
	Kastelic, Mark $821,667$821,667 C, RW RFA - 1	DeBrincat, Alex $6,400,000$6,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Joseph, Mathieu $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Kelly, Parker $762,500$762,500 LW RFA - 2	Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Brassard, Derick $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1		Gambrell, Dylan $950,000$950,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 6	Jones, Seth $9,500,000$9,500,000 RD NMC UFA - 8	Talbot, Cam $3,666,667$3,666,667 G UFA - 1
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LD UFA - 2	Zub, Artem $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 3
	Hamonic, Travis $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD UFA - 1
Holden, Nick $1,300,000$1,300,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Norris, Joshua $7,950,000$7,950,000 C UFA - 8
	Bernard-Docker, Jacob $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) RD RFA - 1

Nov. 30, 2022 at 11:15 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

Joined: Jun. 2019

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Jones isn't waiving to Canada

Nov. 30, 2022 at 11:20 p.m.

BuckRogers

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BuckRogers

Joined: Mar. 2018

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Is the only piece of the puzzle missing,,,, He could be part of a great team, it gives something to think about!!!!

Nov. 30, 2022 at 11:22 p.m.

Hawksguy81

Joined: Nov. 2022

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Doubt Jones waives for Ottawa, but if he did, why would Ottawa want his contract?

Nov. 30, 2022 at 11:24 p.m.

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

Joined: Aug. 2022

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Seth Jones already said that the time when he went from Columbus to Chicago, That he has no desire to play in Canada. he's not waiving for Ottawa. Nuff said.

Nov. 30, 2022 at 11:35 p.m.

sensonfire

Joined: Feb. 2021

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Seth Jones is not waiving his NMC.

Try again.

Nov. 30, 2022 at 11:56 p.m.

Alfie11

Joined: Aug. 2020

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i can’t believe people are saying jones doesn’t waive his nmc is the big issue, when in fact the bigger issues are that the 2023 1st is untouchable, jones sucks, and his contract somehow sucks worse

Dec. 1, 2022 at 12:37 a.m.

AG_sweden

Joined: Jul. 2022

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Even if he did wave (which he will not) would you really want to take on that all kind of awful playing almost 10 M a year until 32 years of age d man?
I know I wouldn't. NYR has Trouba so we know how that feels like.

Dec. 1, 2022 at 2:40 a.m.

ChiHawk

Joined: Apr. 2017

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Quoting: Alfie11

Quoting: AG_sweden

"awful playing" "jones sucks"

https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2022/7/5/23195418/chicago-blackhawks-2021-22-nhl-season-review-recaps-seth-jones-analysis-stats-breakdown

Not as a Hawk

Dec. 1, 2022 at 2:47 a.m.

AG_sweden

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Quoting: ChiHawk

"awful playing" "jones sucks"

https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2022/7/5/23195418/chicago-blackhawks-2021-22-nhl-season-review-recaps-seth-jones-analysis-stats-breakdown

Not as a Hawk

Last years stats?

Dec. 1, 2022 at 2:48 a.m.

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ChiHawk

Joined: Apr. 2017

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Quoting: AG_sweden

Last years stats?

He's been injured this year, so yeah, a full season last year makes a lot of sense versus a handful of games playing through an injury

Dec. 1, 2022 at 2:54 a.m.

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AG_sweden

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Quoting: ChiHawk

He's been injured this year, so yeah, a full season last year makes a lot of sense versus a handful of games playing through an injury

He played half the games and isn't hurt now. Besides - 60 in 145 games is good?

Dec. 1, 2022 at 3:23 a.m.

#12

ChiHawk

Joined: Apr. 2017

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Quoting: AG_sweden

He played half the games and isn't hurt now. Besides - 60 in 145 games is good?

he just came back tonight and didn't look good so he's not healthy and wasn't before leaving

+/- is literally one of the worst ways to evaluate a defensive player. It's a representation of 5 guys on the ice plus a goalie not an individual that is why advanced stats like JFresh cards I shared in that article are much better. He's been paired with some pretty bad defenders like his brother and on ice against the top competition always and often times with the Hawks 4th line in front.

Dec. 1, 2022 at 3:57 a.m.

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AG_sweden

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Quoting: ChiHawk

Okay, I'm not going to argue with that.

Dec. 1, 2022 at 8:51 a.m.

#14

Garak

Joined: Jun. 2019

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Everything else aside, if Jones wants a trade and is actually looking around the league at good and/or up and coming teams that have a need for a top RHD, he probably isn't going to find a better fit than OTT. BUT, CHI declines. I think they would sooner just not trade him than accept a package like this.

Dec. 1, 2022 at 3:03 p.m.

#15

Xspyrit

Joined: Jul. 2016

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Let's say he'd come to Canada

Remove 2023 1st round pick (OTT) and Brannstrom

Or retain something like 2 M$ a year.

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