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Lafreniere et Kakko

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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 2, 2022
Published: Dec. 2, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,875,000
2$2,500,000
2$925,000
2$1,750,000
8$8,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$4,000,000
3$1,850,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Kakko, Kaapo
  2. Lafrenière, Alexis [RFA Rights]
  3. 2023 1st round pick (DAL)
NYR
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Slafkovsky, Juraj
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
2.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Dvorak, Christian
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  4. 2025 1st round pick (CGY)
3.
4.
MTL
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (WSH)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (WSH)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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Logo of the WSH
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$86,500,000$70,713,332$1,170,000$500,000$15,786,668
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the New York Rangers
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$885,000$885,000 (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
C
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,850,000$1,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Dec. 2, 2022 at 9:39 p.m.
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Sheeesh....
Keep the dreams for when you're sleeping
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Dec. 2, 2022 at 9:42 p.m.
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Anderson isn’t worth a first with that contract. Period. Dreaming is fine at night, but keep the delusions to yourself.
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Dec. 2, 2022 at 9:49 p.m.
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Lafreniere is better than Slaf. Four Andersons are not worth a first and kakko.
Dec. 2, 2022 at 9:51 p.m.
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MTL decline. Slafkovsky is worth more than Lafreniere. Kakko and a 10 spot jump in the draft isn't enough for Anderson.
Dec. 2, 2022 at 10:19 p.m.
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Troll


Why would Lafreniere be worth more than Dach, who just was traded for a 13OA?

And MTL will probably get a 1st+ for Anderson. Why would they trade him for Kakko and moving up 10 spots in the draft?
Dec. 3, 2022 at 5:47 a.m.
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Why would Lafreniere be worth more than Dach, who just was traded for a 13OA?

And MTL will probably get a 1st+ for Anderson. Why would they trade him for Kakko and moving up 10 spots in the draft?


Are you talking about Josh ”5.5 millions for 7 points” Anderson?
Dec. 3, 2022 at 7:08 a.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
Why would Lafreniere be worth more than Dach, who just was traded for a 13OA?

And MTL will probably get a 1st+ for Anderson. Why would they trade him for Kakko and moving up 10 spots in the draft?


Dach never performed prior to signing with MTL. Lafreniere is coming off a fantastic playoffs and leads NYR in 5v5 goals during his first 2 seasons.
Dec. 3, 2022 at 10:33 a.m.
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Slafkovsky stay with CH. It's the only one future first line player in that trade.

Slafkovsky > Lafreniere
Anderson > Kakko
Dec. 3, 2022 at 12:39 p.m.
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Kappo is a bust, Laf is a career 3rd liner, Slaf has more value than both combined as he is just starting
Dec. 3, 2022 at 2:40 p.m.
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Dach never performed prior to signing with MTL. Lafreniere is coming off a fantastic playoffs and leads NYR in 5v5 goals during his first 2 seasons.


Patrick Kane said Dach was never given a real chance on the top 6 in Chicago.

Dach have better playoffs stats than Lafreniere, and he's having a better start so far this season.

I'd take Dach over Lafreniere. PPG players like him are difficult to find.
Dec. 3, 2022 at 4:10 p.m.
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Solid offer for Dubois
Dec. 3, 2022 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
Patrick Kane said Dach was never given a real chance on the top 6 in Chicago.

Dach have better playoffs stats than Lafreniere, and he's having a better start so far this season.

I'd take Dach over Lafreniere. PPG players like him are difficult to find.


That’s not true, Dach played 2 full seasons centering Kane + DeBrincat. And most of his points came on the PP.
Dec. 3, 2022 at 8:44 p.m.
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That’s not true, Dach played 2 full seasons centering Kane + DeBrincat. And most of his points came on the PP.


I mean, that's what Patrick Kane said. You can go argue with him it you want. Here's exactly what he said :

"It's tough coming into the league at 18-19 as the third overall pick. The expectations are high. When you're playing on a fourth line, you don't play as much as you should. He showed a lot of potential but was in a tough role." - Patrick Kane

"We are happy for him. He's played in difficult situations on the third and fourth lines here. Every time he's been used in offensive situations, he's had some success. I loved playing with him; he was able to create space for me" - Patrick Kane.

You still think he played 2 full seasons centering Kane and DeBrincat? I hope you're not a BlackHawks fan, that would be hilarious.
Dec. 3, 2022 at 9:06 p.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
I mean, that's what Patrick Kane said. You can go argue with him it you want. Here's exactly what he said :

"It's tough coming into the league at 18-19 as the third overall pick. The expectations are high. When you're playing on a fourth line, you don't play as much as you should. He showed a lot of potential but was in a tough role." - Patrick Kane

"We are happy for him. He's played in difficult situations on the third and fourth lines here. Every time he's been used in offensive situations, he's had some success. I loved playing with him; he was able to create space for me" - Patrick Kane.

You still think he played 2 full seasons centering Kane and DeBrincat? I hope you're not a BlackHawks fan, that would be hilarious.


He started both of the past 2 seasons with Kane-DeBrincat but got bumped off for Suter and Strome. And honestly both Strome & Suter put up better numbers than him on the top line.

We’re not comparing who’s better right now, at the time of trade, Lafreniere was better than Dach in CHI. Laf scored 19 5v5 goals with Goodrow + Gauthier.
Dec. 3, 2022 at 9:21 p.m.
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He started both of the past 2 seasons with Kane-DeBrincat but got bumped off for Suter and Strome. And honestly both Strome & Suter put up better numbers than him on the top line.

We’re not comparing who’s better right now, at the time of trade, Lafreniere was better than Dach in CHI. Laf scored 19 5v5 goals with Goodrow + Gauthier.


Well, Kane stated Dach played mostly 3rd and 4th line, so he must have been bumped off top 6 really fast each time.

Both players didn't play alot of PP. Both got little top 6 time, mostly 3rd line time. Both have similar stats on their first 3 seasons (Dach was hurt most of 2nd season)

2023 is a better draft. I think a 1st between 10 and 15 would be enough for Lafreniere. Could be a nice piece for their future rebuild in 3 years.

NYR will be in a cap crunch next summer, especially if they try to sign Kane. Could see them trade Laffy or Kakko if they ask for too much money.
Dec. 3, 2022 at 9:23 p.m.
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Well, Kane stated Dach played mostly 3rd and 4th line, so he must have been bumped off top 6 really fast each time.

Both players didn't play alot of PP. Both got little top 6 time, mostly 3rd line time. Both have similar stats on their first 3 seasons (Dach was hurt most of 2nd season)

2023 is a better draft. I think a 1st between 10 and 15 would be enough for Lafreniere. Could be a nice piece for their future rebuild in 3 years.

NYR will be in a cap crunch next summer, especially if they try to sign Kane. Could see them trade Laffy or Kakko if they ask for too much money.


For sure a top 15 pick is fair for Laf. But he would be a good pickup unlike what you think.
Dec. 3, 2022 at 10:06 p.m.
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For sure a top 15 pick is fair for Laf. But he would be a good pickup unlike what you think.


I think he would probably be as good as Dach. Point per game player.

He could even be better if MTL get Dubois and play them together with Slafkovsky.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 2:10 p.m.
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I think he would probably be as good as Dach. Point per game player.

He could even be better if MTL get Dubois and play them together with Slafkovsky.


Yes but I also think you need to pick up some young defence projects.
 
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