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Over Pay To Find Defense

Created by: Prime_Jimbo
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 2, 2022
Published: Dec. 2, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Description
A couple big ones and a couple maybes
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Andersson, Rasmus
  2. Lucic, Milan
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Boeser, Brock
  2. Pearson, Tanner
  3. 2023 1st round pick (VAN)
  4. 2024 1st round pick (VAN)
2.
VAN
  1. 2023 1st round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Garland, Conor
3.
VAN
  1. Henrique, Adam
ANA
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
4.
VAN
  1. Zub, Artem
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Bear, Ethan
  2. 2023 1st round pick (WPG)
  3. 2023 4th round pick (VAN)
5.
VAN
  1. Olofsson, Victor
BUF
  1. McDonough, Aidan [Reserve List]
  2. Rathbone, Jack
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$80,051,667$1,250,000$2,000,000$2,448,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Kuzmenko, Andrei
$950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Pettersson, Elias
$7,350,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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Mikheyev, Ilya
$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Miller, J.T.
$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Horvat, Bo
$4,125,000
C
UFA - 1
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Olofsson, Victor
$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Höglander, Nils
$891,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Henrique, Adam
$5,825,000
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Podkolzin, Vasily
$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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Joshua, Dakota
$825,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Lazar, Curtis
$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Hughes, Quinn
$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 5
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Andersson, Rasmus
$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 4
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Demko, Thatcher
$5,000,000
G
UFA - 4
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Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Zub, Artem
$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Martin, Spencer
$762,500
G
UFA - 2
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Dermott, Travis
$1,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Schenn, Luke
$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Burroughs, Kyle
$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Ferland, Micheal
$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Stillman, Riley
$1,350,000
LD
RFA - 2
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Poolman, Tucker
$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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Studnicka, Jack
$762,500
RW, C
RFA - 2

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Dec. 2, 2022 at 11:01 p.m.
#1
mv21227
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Trading our 1st round pick this year would be idiotic. Trading another 1st for a pending UFA would also be idiotic. Wouldn’t do the Anaheim deal either
Dec. 2, 2022 at 11:05 p.m.
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sabres89
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I wouldn't trade olofsson for that.
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Dec. 2, 2022 at 11:17 p.m.
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Dan_the_Man
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Unless Ottawa KNOWS Zub is gone they don't consider that. Going from an early second to a mid to late first and a 4th isn't the difference between Zub and Bear
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Dec. 2, 2022 at 11:22 p.m.
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sensonfire
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Even if you took out the 2nd in the trade for Zub, Ottawa still says no.

Try again.
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Dec. 3, 2022 at 12:00 a.m.
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LaffsFan
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Justin Holl for a first take it or leave it
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Dec. 3, 2022 at 12:35 a.m.
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NHLfan10506
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I’d love to see an Aidan McDonough for Reilly Walsh deal. Fits both teams’ needs.
Dec. 3, 2022 at 12:44 a.m.
#7
GiggywithGibby
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I feel you are wasting Henriques talents by sticking him at 3C, but if Anaheim didn't get a better offer, we'd probably do that at the TDL or the off season.
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Dec. 3, 2022 at 12:50 a.m.
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Prime_Jimbo
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
I feel you are wasting Henriques talents by sticking him at 3C, but if Anaheim didn't get a better offer, we'd probably do that at the TDL or the off season.


If the Canucks were unable to sign Kuzmenko, he'd fit on the Petey for sure.
Dec. 3, 2022 at 1:55 a.m.
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Fjordy
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Buffalo pass, I see no point in this package for Buffalo. Another winger like Garland would make more sense.
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Dec. 3, 2022 at 8:35 p.m.
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Quoting: sabres89
I wouldn't trade olofsson for that.
Quoting: Fjordy
Buffalo pass, I see no point in this package for Buffalo. Another winger like Garland would make more sense.
Would you do:
Bear, Ethan
2023 1st round pick (WPG)
2023 4th round pick (VAN)
for
Olofsson, Victor
The middle 2023 2nd round pick. probably Buffalo's?

Bear may not be a great option, but he an NHL RHD and only 25 yo.
Moving up to the first round and getting a fourth would be a nice return for Victor.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 2:53 a.m.
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Fjordy
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Would you do:
Bear, Ethan
2023 1st round pick (WPG)
2023 4th round pick (VAN)
for
Olofsson, Victor
The middle 2023 2nd round pick. probably Buffalo's?

Bear may not be a great option, but he an NHL RHD and only 25 yo.
Moving up to the first round and getting a fourth would be a nice return for Victor.


Adams could have get Bear for 5th and wasn't interested.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 4:40 a.m.
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gretzkyghosts
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Quoting: Fjordy
Adams could have get Bear for 5th and wasn't interested.
I am bemused the trade is "Moving up to the first round and getting a fourth", Bear is superfluous!
Do you know with certainty that Waddell offered Bear to Adams?
Other than to move up in the draft show me a trade Karmanos made for a player!
Using the current standings the Sabres would move up 14 spots equivalent to the 32nd OA, a 4th and shed $2.2KK.
Kim and Terry would love that savings!
Dec. 4, 2022 at 6:11 a.m.
#13
Fjordy
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
I am bemused the trade is "Moving up to the first round and getting a fourth", Bear is superfluous!
Do you know with certainty that Waddell offered Bear to Adams?
Other than to move up in the draft show me a trade Karmanos made for a player!
Using the current standings the Sabres would move up 14 spots equivalent to the 32nd OA, a 4th and shed $2.2KK.
Kim and Terry would love that savings!


Adams said he was constantly in touch with every GM in the league and probably knew that Bear was available, even us regular fans knew that, since he was a healthy scratch and there were rumors that he would be trade. I'm not talking about the value of your trade, I'm talking about the fact that Adams is probably not interested in Bear as an improvement to the lineup for Buffalo and he is very selective in making trades or signings.
 
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