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Habs for a playoff run

Created by: habitantlecolon
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 4, 2022
Published: Dec. 4, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
MTL
  1. DeMelo, Dylan
  2. Dubois, Pierre-Luc
Additional Details:
Dubois doesn't want to sign with the Jets and everyone around the league know that
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Edmundson, Joel
  3. Farrell, Sean [Reserve List]
  4. Struble, Jayden [Reserve List]
  5. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
First is loto protected, if habs miss playoff Winnipeg receive 2024 MTL 1st round instead
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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23$82,500,000$71,572,499$1,132,500$5,277,500$10,927,501
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 4
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
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UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 5
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
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$750,000$750,000
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UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
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UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
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UFA - 4
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
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UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$1,100,000$1,100,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
UFA - 2

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Dec. 4, 2022 at 3:19 a.m.
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The jets are in A better playoff spot, actually in one. Montreal is 6th in their division, not even in a playoff spot

Why on earth would the jets get worse
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Dec. 4, 2022 at 3:40 a.m.
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Yeah, you sure getting Dubois+DeMelo for a protected 1st and all your trash dude
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Dec. 4, 2022 at 3:54 a.m.
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Edited Dec. 4, 2022 at 5:50 a.m.
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Yeah, you sure getting Dubois+DeMelo for a protected 1st and all your trash dude


if Farrell and Strubble are trash, your prospect pool is pure toilet waste then!
Dec. 4, 2022 at 5:38 a.m.
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if farell and strubble are trash your prospect pool is pure toilet waste then!


Lol I was thinking the same thing. 18 points in 11 games for Harvard this season... Is not trash.
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Dec. 4, 2022 at 5:42 a.m.
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The Habs were flirting with a wildcard spot, but thankfully that is coming undone. If they keep playing 0.500 hockey with Monahan in the lineup, they will certainly take a step back when they trade him. It's OK if they don't make the playoffs this season.

Farrell & Roy have a chance to make the team next season as wingers and the team will be more competitive.

Do you think the Habs can trade for Lafreniere in the offseason? It might be a better target than Dubois at this point.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 6:14 a.m.
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I'd rather go with Dubois cause he plays a center 2 way game. This AGM is by far one of my best offer for Dubois since a florida 1st and calgary 1st 3 months ago ... Winterpeg fan don't have enough emotionnal intelligence to properly talk about trade or debate on player value. They are too simplistic to assess the basic of trading or acknowledge the sport environnement.


I'm sure Dach is gonna take that 2C position next season.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 6:46 a.m.
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I'm sure Dach is gonna take that 2C position next season.


I'd rather have him on the wing.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 7:20 a.m.
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I'd rather have him on the wing.


But we have guys coming up in the next 1-3 years on the wings:

Farrell, Roy, Kidney, Mesar, Guindon, Rohrer

Some of these guys will make the Habs as wingers

The only Center in the pipeline that will definitely make the Habs is Beck and then there are some other guys like Kapanen who maybe will make it. Dach is much more valuable to this team as a Center.

Big trades like the one you propose... The team that acquires the player always loses in the medium to long term and I don't want us to trade Farrell only to discover he's as good as Caufield.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 8:50 a.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
I'd rather have him on the wing.


Quoting: jonh514
But we have guys coming up in the next 1-3 years on the wings:

Farrell, Roy, Kidney, Mesar, Guindon, Rohrer

Some of these guys will make the Habs as wingers

The only Center in the pipeline that will definitely make the Habs is Beck and then there are some other guys like Kapanen who maybe will make it. Dach is much more valuable to this team as a Center.

Big trades like the one you propose... The team that acquires the player always loses in the medium to long term and I don't want us to trade Farrell only to discover he's as good as Caufield.


Honestly, I don't think we should trade for either of PLD or Laf. They aren't our final missing pieces, and we have lots of time, prospects, and draft picks to develop the players we need. Our prospect pool is deep and going to get much deeper after a year or two of KH drafting. At this point, patience is our best course of action...unless someone offers a gross overpay that we'd be stupid to turn down.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 8:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Honestly, I don't think we should trade for either of PLD or Laf. They aren't our final missing pieces, and we have lots of time, prospects, and draft picks to develop the players we need. Our prospect pool is deep and going to get much deeper after a year or two of KH drafting. At this point, patience is our best course of action...unless someone offers a gross overpay that we'd be stupid to turn down.


Not sure I agree. Our team is better than some of the bottom feeders and it may be possible to pull off another Dach-esque trade.

If the price for Lafreniere is an 11-15 pick like it was for Dach... and you can sign him to a 2-4 year "show me" deal... You win twice, first because you get a player with great upside and second because you get a player on an affordable deal in a time when cap space is at a premium.

How good is that Dach deal gonna look in years 3 & 4?
Dec. 4, 2022 at 9:04 a.m.
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Not sure I agree. Our team is better than some of the bottom feeders and it may be possible to pull off another Dach-esque trade.

If the price for Lafreniere is an 11-15 pick like it was for Dach... and you can sign him to a 2-4 year "show me" deal... You win twice, first because you get a player with great upside and second because you get a player on an affordable deal in a time when cap space is at a premium.

How good is that Dach deal gonna look in years 3 & 4?


Dach panned out so far, doesn't necessarily mean Laf would be the same. If Dach turned out to be a dud then we would be shredding KH for making that deal (not going to lie I was hesitant about it from the get go but I've since eaten crow and love the deal).

I could get behind a trade for Laf but only for the right pieces, which means keeping our '23 1sts because I feel they're both more valuable at this point.

I'd do a '24 1st (top 10 protected), '23 3rd, + Ylonen for Laf but not sure I'd go any further than that. Then if we can sign him to a Dach style deal, you're right it could be great. I'm just not on the page of trading upper-end assets until maybe this offseason, after we see how moving vets at the TDL goes and how we draft this go around.

With PLD we should wait and if he ends up a FA then make him a pitch, but we definitely should not trade a thing for him as it stands.
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Dec. 4, 2022 at 9:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Honestly, I don't think we should trade for either of PLD or Laf. They aren't our final missing pieces, and we have lots of time, prospects, and draft picks to develop the players we need. Our prospect pool is deep and going to get much deeper after a year or two of KH drafting. At this point, patience is our best course of action...unless someone offers a gross overpay that we'd be stupid to turn down.


if we can get 1st rounder or 2nd rounder for Edmundson, Anderson, Dvorak or Monahan or pair them to deal for a younger 2 way player or rookie or prospect, we need to do it. If Dubois keep going this way it wouldn't be a bad idea too. Suzuki - Dubois - Beck - Mesar down the middle could help the future, and if we keep or take back Monahan even after trading him he could slot well next to Beck and Gallagher as a forcheck unit. The question mark are actually on the wing ... who is going to be able in the next 2-3 years to make the team. Dubois can also play on wing ... so wether or not we decide to put Dach at center we have another big body player to try with Suzuki and Caufield.

I know here I sacrifice two gems in Strubble and Farrell, but Dubois could really fit in our timeline.
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Dec. 4, 2022 at 9:29 a.m.
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if we can get 1st rounder or 2nd rounder for Edmundson, Anderson, Dvorak or Monahan or pair them to deal for a younger 2 way player or rookie or prospect, we need to do it. If Dubois keep going this way it wouldn't be a bad idea too. Suzuki - Dubois - Beck - Mesar down the middle could help the future, and if we keep or take back Monahan even after trading him he could slot well next to Beck and Gallagher as a forcheck unit. The question mark are actually on the wing ... who is going to be able in the next 2-3 years to make the team. Dubois can also play on wing ... so wether or not we decide to put Dach at center we have another big body player to try with Suzuki and Caufield.

I know here I sacrifice two gems in Strubble and Farrell, but Dubois could really fit in our timeline.


I think management is considering resigning Monahan since he's fitting in nicely. Edmundson, Anderson, Dvo can be moved for whatever we can get that is of an area of need/draft picks to improve areas of need, I agree. Dubois would be great, but I still don't agree with paying anything for him when we're nowhere near a competitive team.

Centre options: Suzuki, Dach, Monahan, Evans, Beck, Kidney, Mesar, '23/'24 draft pick(s)

Wing options: Caufield, Slaf, Mesar, Farrell, Roy, Gally (assuming he's staying around), '23/'24 draft pick(s)

The prospect depth on this team is wonderful, trying to fast track this rebuild is a mistake. We need a minimum of the '23 draft before we go splish-splashing around with trading our assets, unless we're trading future years' draft picks ('24 & '25) for prospects/good young players while keeping most or all of our '23 picks.

What we really need to target is a top end G prospect and maybe another upper tier RD prospect. Those are our weakest points imo as it stands. When the time comes we can make a splash or two and bring in some established names but I feel like doing it now stunts the development of guys who could be in those spots for the interim, and that overall hurts our depth when going on future playoff runs.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 10:11 a.m.
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Quoting: jonh514
But we have guys coming up in the next 1-3 years on the wings:

Farrell, Roy, Kidney, Mesar, Guindon, Rohrer

Some of these guys will make the Habs as wingers

The only Center in the pipeline that will definitely make the Habs is Beck and then there are some other guys like Kapanen who maybe will make it. Dach is much more valuable to this team as a Center.

Big trades like the one you propose... The team that acquires the player always loses in the medium to long term and I don't want us to trade Farrell only to discover he's as good as Caufield.


I think Dach stays on the wing and Beck gets 2 or 3 center and Monahan my be resigned as well, he loves the city and I think the Habs like his game so far.
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