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Josh Anderson Joel Edmundson blockbuster

Created by: Friesen
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 6, 2022
Published: Dec. 6, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$895,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Anderson, Josh ($750,000 retained)
  2. Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)
  3. 2024 4th round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. Minten, Fraser
  3. Sandin, Rasmus
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
  6. 2025 4th round pick (TOR)
2.
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$79,872,283$212,500$0$2,627,717

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$895,000$895,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$750,000$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
-$875,000-$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2

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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:12 a.m.
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TELL ME WHYYYYY
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:14 a.m.
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So this is how Kyle Dubas gets fired?
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:15 a.m.
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Imagine trying to explain to your fanbase that you can’t re-sign Auston matthews because you traded for josh Anderson.
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:18 a.m.
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So what's in it for Montreal exactly?
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:23 a.m.
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Montreal passes and here is why

1. Sandin is not a RD
2. Minten is a nice peice but not when you want retention on the 2 Habs players
3. What is it everyone always says to Habs fans? Right, if you want quality you have to give quality not quantity

Niemela + Leafs 2023 1st + 2nd + Engvall or Holl
Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Montreal passes and here is why

1. Sandin is not a RD
2. Minten is a nice peice but not when you want retention on the 2 Habs players
3. What is it everyone always says to Habs fans? Right, if you want quality you have to give quality not quantity

If you watch Sandin, he has more value than Edmundson.... but Leafs need a bruiser. Edmundson isn't an update over Sandin now let alone 2-3 years from now.

Niemela + Leafs 2023 1st + 2nd + Engvall or Holl
Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:26 a.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Imagine trying to explain to your fanbase that you can’t re-sign Auston matthews because you traded for josh Anderson.


🤣
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:27 a.m.
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Quoting: Friesen


Montreal doesn't need an upgrade over Eddy, we have too many LD already and more coming. Sandin is not an upgrade over Guhle, Matheson, Harris or Hutson's potential.
Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Montreal passes and here is why

1. Sandin is not a RD
2. Minten is a nice peice but not when you want retention on the 2 Habs players
3. What is it everyone always says to Habs fans? Right, if you want quality you have to give quality not quantity

Niemela + Leafs 2023 1st + 2nd + Engvall or Holl


right, but josh anderson is not quality. Easy pass for Toronto, MTL would be lucky to get out of that contract this easy with this big of a return
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:34 a.m.
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
So what's in it for Montreal exactly?


dumping an abysmal contract for a solid young player, a recent early 2nd round pick, a 3rd liner (which is what Anderson is), and two more picks. No thank you for Toronto.
Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:35 a.m.
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So this is how Kyle Dubas gets fired?


just an absolute nuclear bomb of a resignation note. "hey guys i'm leavning by the way i traded Sandin & Minten for Anderson & Edmundson k see ya later"
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:37 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
right, but josh anderson is not quality. Easy pass for Toronto, MTL would be lucky to get out of that contract this easy with this big of a return


Say you don't know hockey without saying you don't know hockey LMAO!!!
Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Say you don't know hockey without saying you don't know hockey LMAO!!!


say nobody wants your 5.5Mx4yr 3rd liner without saying nobody wants him
Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:39 a.m.
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Sandin is quite arguably the best player in this deal. Its between him and Edmunson who is an older rental, Rasmus holds by far the most value of anyone in this deal
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:39 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
say nobody wants your 5.5Mx4yr 3rd liner without saying nobody wants him


Then why all the interest from GM's at the last TDL and over the summer? Right, cause all GM's want is trash, they don't actually want to win, they prefer 18 years of first round exits!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!

EDIT*** And losing to their own AHL Zamboni driver
Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
dumping an abysmal contract for a solid young player, a recent early 2nd round pick, a 3rd liner (which is what Anderson is), and two more picks. No thank you for Toronto.


Call me back when you are really motivated
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
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Then why all the interest from GM's at the last TDL and over the summer? Right, cause all GM's want is trash, they don't actually want to win, they prefer 18 years of first round exits!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!


some GMs, much like Bergevin did, get caught up in size and not actual ability, production, and impact. Teams may have had interest, but I find it very hard to believe that anyone was willing to pony up any significant assets because if so he would already be dealt. Teams either were asking for 50% retention or offering next to nothing, there's no other way Hughes doesn't make a deal

also sure resort to bashing the Leafs instead of the actual issue under debate, the Leafs 1st round exits have no bearing on the very little, if not negative value Anderson holds.
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
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Sandin >>>>> Edmundson
Engvall>>>>> Anderson
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:42 a.m.
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Quoting: STLBlues17
Sandin >>>>> Edmundson
Engvall>>>>> Anderson


but no because anderson is like really big
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:43 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
many GMs, much like Bergevin did, get caught up in size and not actual ability, production, and impact. Teams may have had interest, but I find it very hard to believe that anyone was willing to pony up any significant assets because if so he would already be dealt. Teams either were asking for 50% retention or offering next to nothing, there's no other way Hughes doesn't make a deal


You believe whatever makes you happy, you know better than the actual GM's LMAO!!!
Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:45 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
some GMs, much like Bergevin did, get caught up in size and not actual ability, production, and impact. Teams may have had interest, but I find it very hard to believe that anyone was willing to pony up any significant assets because if so he would already be dealt. Teams either were asking for 50% retention or offering next to nothing, there's no other way Hughes doesn't make a deal

also sure resort to bashing the Leafs instead of the actual issue under debate, the Leafs 1st round exits have no bearing on the very little, if not negative value Anderson holds.


But i was told that Anderson for #2 overall was a certainty!

and that Anderson for a 1st+ at the deadline was a certainty...

and that Anderson for a 1st+ now is a certainty...
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:45 a.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
You believe whatever makes you happy, you know better than the actual GM's LMAO!!!


how are we even sure GMs had real interest? I know it was reported that some inquired but we have no idea what they were actually offering, could have been late round pick and Habs decided against it. No trade went down. Just because teams had interest doesn't mean he has some crazy high value. Leafs had *interest* in Mat Murray and still got paid to take him, just as an example.
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:47 a.m.
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
But i was told that Anderson for #2 overall was a certainty!

and that Anderson for a 1st+ at the deadline was a certainty...

and that Anderson for a 1st+ now is a certainty...


no, no, it wasn't Anderson for #2OA, the Devils thought that price was too high. But according to Tony Marinaro they might be interested in Josh Anderson for Simon Nemec!
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:47 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
but no because anderson is like really big


The Blues have Tyler Pitlick who I’m convinced is basically the same player as Anderson
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Dec. 6, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
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no, no, it wasn't Anderson for #2OA, the Devils thought that price was too high. But according to Tony Marinaro they might be interested in Josh Anderson for Simon Nemec!


ah yes, my mistake, my mistake. Big difference there, how could I have been so blind tears of joy
 
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