Jackets are happy to help out if they're getting paid but a 4th isn't quite enough...

Leafs and no team has interest in PJ, and certainly the Leafs aren't trading a RHD Timmins (who has looked OK). Really can't see the Leafs being interred in Henrique.

I'd probably accept that offer as the Anaheim GM, especially inasmuch as I had Villeneuve on our draft board.

Caps will get a better offer for Jensen honestly.

I have posted a Henrique deal before as an option for the 2LW.

What I see, with retention, is a guy who can throw up 40-50 points, plays a great 200 foot game and can still play centre. He maybe older, but with only one year left to go after this certainly insulates the Leafs as I suspect a Flux of kids male the team next year (Holmberg, Steeves, Knies......). Worst case, if the Leafs cannot keep Kämpf in the fold (I suggest this should he a priority), he could be the 3C.

Of all the posts I have thrown out there so far regarding adding a top 6 player (Mantha, Saad, Sheary)...... Henrique actually maybe the best fit imo.

A 2nd and 3rd for Jensen is a strong offer. Skating the line on overpay.

Jensen is certainly a very good, and absolutely under rated defensemen, but he isn't going to get a 1st.

A better 2nd and a better prospect maybe..... but that offer is very ballpark to what he will fetch imo.

Agree with on Henrique....he might be the best fit. Mantha and Saad too expensive for middling play. You're right Henrique's ability to play centre would be real bonus

I did a post involving Henrique and Kulikov that had Roberston and that 2024 1st going the other way (suggested I needed another pick.... that I don't know)

Seems there is a consensus on what Henrique should get if a deal were to happen, that seems to be clear.

Yes, I see a huge bonus to that. Ideally the Leafs keep Kämpf (have to think they will try)..... and in that scenario, Henrique is simply a slightly better offensive version of Kerfoot, and a better centreman.

Lots of options with him in the fold.

Considering he’d be the best RHD available aside from Klingberg and he’ll be much cheaper and actually plays a two way game rather than offense only, he will fetch a better return. He will get a first if the caps are trading him. A second and a third is not an overpay. Not even close. Especially when neither pick is for this coming draft.

All good pints, but if we are sacrificing a 1st, I’d target a better player than Henrique, even if it has to be a rental - O’Reilly, Toews, Horvat. Will Henrique really be a difference maker in 6 or 7 game series vs Bolts or Bruins 🧐? I think (hope) that’s what Leafs mgmt is considering when looking to upgrade

Disagree.

The market for RD simply isn't there right now. Not even sure Klingberg gets a 1st without an extension in play.

See a stronger market on the left side. Even then, there are a lot of names out there.

Unless a rash of injuries happen that have a true adverse effect on a team..... just not seeing that sort of return.

I love Villeneuve so that hurts, but I have on my non-posted ACGM us getting Henrique too. I completely agree with your takes on him and I would slot him in the 2LW spot too. I think he would mesh so well with JT and Marner. I think Henrique makes a ton of sense for this team.

THANK YOU for this not being the "yet another Jenner poach attempt" I was worried it might be.

A 4th to take on $750k of cap hit for less than a year is probably sufficient, tho I could see us trying to push for slightly more.

One-quarter of Puljujarvi's cap hit is $750k. It's tiny enough and minimal-impact enough that that's probably fine. I sure wouldn't mind more, tho.

Don’t trade for a RHD if you don’t want to pay the price for one

Robertson is very polarizing for Anaheim, I would personally take that deal at the TDL as stated, some of the other Anaheim brain trust think Robertson is a bust. I am high on him though.

There is also the possibility that Anaheim would be willing to do a cap in/cap out as part of the deal with Henrique. I could see us taking Kerfoot back the other way, assuming we are not on his NTC. Mind you, I view Kerfoot as nothing but a cap casualty and having no positive value in of himself, but it opens up the possibility of getting a more expensive upgrade elsewhere on the roster. The deal would have to be adjusted to balance at that point.

Oh I thought I saw it was half of 3mil cap hit, if it's 750k then meh, a 4th is fine

Certainly would be opposed to moving Kerfoot in such a package.

Not sure I would go so far as to call him a "cap casualty" at this juncture. The Muzzin situation (I strongly feel he won't be back given some offseason comments) has cleared that issue up.

I recognize Henrique's offensive game is both better and more consistent than Kerfoot's, but defensively they are very much a wash.

A Kerfoot inclusion for Anahiem gives them another movable asset in such deal (seeing a 2nd rounder or early 3rd).

For the Leafs, non retention is more an issue next year, so not sure this would be of any assistance to Dubas.

Stranger things have happened.

If there is no demand for a RD, the price isn't what you think it will be.... kind of my point here.

If there’s no demand for a RHD, then why are you trading for one? That’s literally the demand for a RHD. And I’m sure other teams are interested in one too.

I am not trading for one lol. This ACGM is. And why I don't know.

There is no glaring need for a RD right now. I would say that for most organizations sniffing at the playoffs at this point.

Some may look to upgrade - but that willingness to do so depends on price point.

Right now..... no market.

Okay then. I’m just telling you that the caps aren’t trading Jensen under his actual value just because there’s “no market” lol

Did I say they should?

I just think you are overvaluing Jensen. 2nd yes. 1st is a stretch.

Truth be told Jensen's value probably lies somewhere between a first and a second. I think the going rate for that second tier of rental defensemen is often two second round picks which I think is more than fair for a second pair guy like Jensen (see Giordano last TDL).