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Created by: Robl88
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 10, 2022
Published: Dec. 10, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$800,000
Trades
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TOR
  1. Murray, Brett
  2. Olofsson, Victor ($2,375,000 retained)
BUF
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$82,308,116$212,500$0$191,884
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$827,500$827,500
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,375,000$2,375,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2

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Dec. 10, 2022 at 11:24 p.m.
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Buffalo takes that and runs away by relocating the team to Portland, Oregon, as far away from Toronto as they can get so they can’t hunt you down for aiding and abetting a grand larceny
Dec. 10, 2022 at 11:47 p.m.
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Quoting: RasmusASSplund
Buffalo takes that and runs away by relocating the team to Portland, Oregon, as far away from Toronto as they can get so they can’t hunt you down for aiding and abetting a grand larceny


Even if u wanna consider Olofsson just a PP specialist,
he’s still on pace for over 35goals
Also, Olofsson is quite likely to produce at 5v5 playing on a line with Matthews
And they’d be getting him at a Cap hit under $2.4mil

That’s a steal all right- for them!
A late 1st really isn’t that big of a deal, especially for us with three 2nds this year
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Dec. 10, 2022 at 11:53 p.m.
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Quoting: RasmusASSplund
Buffalo takes that and runs away by relocating the team to Portland, Oregon, as far away from Toronto as they can get so they can’t hunt you down for aiding and abetting a grand larceny


No they dont. Buffalo has 0 reason to do this
Dec. 11, 2022 at 12:19 a.m.
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Quoting: Buffalove
Even if u wanna consider Olofsson just a PP specialist,
he’s still on pace for over 35goals
Also, Olofsson is quite likely to produce at 5v5 playing on a line with Matthews
And they’d be getting him at a Cap hit under $2.4mil

That’s a steal all right- for them!
A late 1st really isn’t that big of a deal, especially for us with three 2nds this year


He’ll produce some points, but if he’s playing on Toronto’s top line, he will drag that line down. He plays on the perimeter and he’s a major defensive liability.

On that top line, he’s going to also draw the opponents top competition defensively at 5 on 5. He’s doesn’t get that in Buffalo playing in the bottom six. That’s why he plays there and why he’s been surpassed by the kids on this roster

If Olafsson was legitimately a top line forward, he would be one in Buffalo, but he’s just as much of a 5 on 5 black hole as Mittelstadt, and him playing big even strength minutes doesn’t work. That’s why he hasn’t done it here at this point.. He’s a specialist plain and simple. If you’re looking for a big shot on the power play, or a decent second line winger with a good shot he’s your guy. If you need someone defensively responsible, with good two way skills, and have a positive impact on the game offensive and defensive, that’s not him.

So if a team is offering me a first round pick for Olafsson, I’m taking that easily because that is a gross overpayment. I would be thrilled with a second rounder and a B prospect or depth D man
Dec. 11, 2022 at 8:15 a.m.
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Quoting: RasmusASSplund
He’ll produce some points, but if he’s playing on Toronto’s top line, he will drag that line down. He plays on the perimeter and he’s a major defensive liability.

On that top line, he’s going to also draw the opponents top competition defensively at 5 on 5. He’s doesn’t get that in Buffalo playing in the bottom six. That’s why he plays there and why he’s been surpassed by the kids on this roster

If Olafsson was legitimately a top line forward, he would be one in Buffalo, but he’s just as much of a 5 on 5 black hole as Mittelstadt, and him playing big even strength minutes doesn’t work. That’s why he hasn’t done it here at this point.. He’s a specialist plain and simple. If you’re looking for a big shot on the power play, or a decent second line winger with a good shot he’s your guy. If you need someone defensively responsible, with good two way skills, and have a positive impact on the game offensive and defensive, that’s not him.

So if a team is offering me a first round pick for Olafsson, I’m taking that easily because that is a gross overpayment. I would be thrilled with a second rounder and a B prospect or depth D man


Of course you would,
bc you exaggeratedly hate the guy

And Olofsson can “drag their top line down” but still produce more points offensively

If u wanna move him, fine
But get value for him
Bc even as a PP specialist, scoring 30+ goals has value
Dec. 11, 2022 at 12:17 p.m.
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Quoting: RasmusASSplund
...So if a team is offering me a first round pick for Olafsson, I’m taking that easily because that is a gross overpayment. I would be thrilled with a second rounder and a B prospect or depth D man
Let's agree a second and "B" prospect is about the correct price for Olofsson.
It is Buffalo adding the "B" prospect, but what else in this trade has value:
$2,375,000 retention (next year as well), Murray, and taking on Engvall's $2,250,000 salary hit.
IDK the exact value of all of that but it is not nothing when the Leaf's would be adding significant goal production while only adding $125,000 to the cap.
The total value of the additions is significant.
If Olofsson could get the Leaf's out of the first round then the pick would be among the last 8, that would be a fair return considering all of the other parts of the trade.
Dec. 11, 2022 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Let's agree a second and "B" prospect is about the correct price for Olofsson.
It is Buffalo adding the "B" prospect, but what else in this trade has value:
$2,375,000 retention (next year as well), Murray, and taking on Engvall's $2,250,000 salary hit.
IDK the exact value of all of that but it is not nothing when the Leaf's would be adding significant goal production while only adding $125,000 to the cap.
The total value of the additions is significant.
If Olofsson could get the Leaf's out of the first round then the pick would be among the last 8, that would be a fair return considering all of the other parts of the trade.


This is basically how I came up with the value as well. Although I don’t agree that Engvall has negative value.
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Dec. 12, 2022 at 1:26 p.m.
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This is basically how I came up with the value as well. Although I don’t agree that Engvall has negative value.
I am sorry that my quote appeared that I was giving Engvall negative value.
I get to watch him when the Sabres play the Leafs and he is a high energy pest.
He is slightly over paid for his offensive production, but certainly not a negative value.

The comment was an indication that the Sabres do not need another winger but he was included to balance the roster and cap.

The bottom line we agreed on the value of Olofsson at half salary with Murray is a worth a first if a player of commensurate cap was sent back to the Sabres.
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