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Created by: habitantlecolon
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 11, 2022
Published: Dec. 11, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
The question is to debate whether or not if HABS could retain that money for 5 yrs.
Trades
MTL
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis
  2. Skinner, Hunter
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (COL)
NYR
  1. Anderson, Josh ($2,350,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$65,672,499$1,132,500$8,127,500$16,827,501
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 4
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
UFA - 2

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Could habs do a rebuild with such retention
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Dec. 11, 2022 at 9:19 a.m.
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Look at the cap you have, 11 mil to resign Caufiled + Lafreniere + 5 others. It is not enough, then consider Guhle, Slaf and a handful of others need to be signed before that retention comes off the books and it's a stupid idea to retain for that long.
Dec. 11, 2022 at 9:28 a.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Look at the cap you have, 11 mil to resign Caufiled + Lafreniere + 5 others. It is not enough, then consider Guhle, Slaf and a handful of others need to be signed before that retention comes off the books and it's a stupid idea to retain for that long.


add up 4 millions cap raise + dadonov and we are at 20 millions. So the question is still debatable.
Dec. 11, 2022 at 9:45 a.m.
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what am i missing here why would ny even consider this
Dec. 11, 2022 at 9:46 a.m.
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what am i missing here why would ny even consider this


because : https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3803088
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Dec. 11, 2022 at 9:49 a.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
because : https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3803088

still feel like im missing something why is he so cheap
Dec. 11, 2022 at 9:54 a.m.
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Laffy is better than Andersson already. And we can probably get him for the same price as of now, so I really don't see the point. More than making a Montreal native play for his home team.
Don't see the benefit for NYR.
Dec. 11, 2022 at 9:54 a.m.
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still feel like im missing something why is he so cheap


playoff push and player auction. Afox is rude usually so when he says deal, it's doable. Having Lafrenière for our rebuild will gladly help.
Dec. 11, 2022 at 9:56 a.m.
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Laffy is better than Andersson already. And we can probably get him for the same price as of now, so I really don't see the point. More than making a Montreal native play for his home team.
Don't see the benefit for NYR.


AFox want grit, size and player that fit the north south style of game. So i,m ready to take 5 yrs retention to get Lafrenière. Question here is whether or not habs should.
Dec. 11, 2022 at 9:57 a.m.
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@Afox23 care to explain them why Rangers should move for Anderson?
Dec. 11, 2022 at 9:57 a.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
AFox want grit, size and player that fit the north south style of game. So i,m ready to take 5 yrs retention to get Lafrenière. Question here is whether or not habs should.


dont know how you are even guestioning it this major fleece
Dec. 11, 2022 at 9:58 a.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
AFox want grit, size and player that fit the north south style of game. So i,m ready to take 5 yrs retention to get Lafrenière. Question here is wheter or not habs should.


I would If I was Habs, He + Suzuki + Caufield is much better than Anderson anywhere. But it will be harder to keep the younger players.
Dec. 11, 2022 at 10:31 a.m.
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realistically Anderson is worth skinner and the 3rd without retention. So with retention you could maybe pull Kravstov and a 3rd or 2nd
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Dec. 11, 2022 at 11:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Bandit
still feel like im missing something why is he so cheap


you're not missing something this is utterly insane. Anderson is a 3rd liner and the retention only brings his cap hit down to the realm of what it should be. I might argue it's still a little too much money for him. No NHL GM would actually consider this asinine move.

The easiest of NYR declines.
Dec. 11, 2022 at 11:11 a.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
AFox want grit, size and player that fit the north south style of game. So i,m ready to take 5 yrs retention to get Lafrenière. Question here is whether or not habs should.


lol no its not a question the habs would do this no hesitation. The entire Rangers front office, on the other hand, would very abruptly experience unemployment.
Dec. 11, 2022 at 11:13 a.m.
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Why is new york giving up the three most valuable assets in this deal?
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Dec. 11, 2022 at 11:18 a.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
add up 4 millions cap raise + dadonov and we are at 20 millions. So the question is still debatable.

I'll start by saying that ownership would likely not be approve that type of retention for 5 years (unless they are getting an absurd return like that). They have 22.1m + cap rise (maybe 4m, maybe more but at least 1m) to sign Caufield, Lafreniere, 4LW and 2C (need to be aware of Price's cap hit if he ever becomes healthy in the next 3 years).

I'm going to assume a flat cap for next season, so it would be 23.1m available.
Let's say they are both signed for 8mx8, that would leave 7.1m for the 4LW and the "2C". Cap-wise it's doable.
Dec. 11, 2022 at 1:49 p.m.
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Monkey see, Monkey do. Lol
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Dec. 11, 2022 at 2:07 p.m.
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Monkey see, Monkey do. Lol
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Human are juste big monkeys with tools :P
Dec. 11, 2022 at 2:08 p.m.
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I'll start by saying that ownership would likely not be approve that type of retention for 5 years (unless they are getting an absurd return like that). They have 22.1m + cap rise (maybe 4m, maybe more but at least 1m) to sign Caufield, Lafreniere, 4LW and 2C (need to be aware of Price's cap hit if he ever becomes healthy in the next 3 years).

I'm going to assume a flat cap for next season, so it would be 23.1m available.
Let's say they are both signed for 8mx8, that would leave 7.1m for the 4LW and the "2C". Cap-wise it's doable.


I wonder if Lafrenière could fetch more in sell than the retention and convince the Molson to accept such deal.
Dec. 11, 2022 at 3:31 p.m.
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Human are juste big monkeys with tools :P


Use your tools
Dec. 11, 2022 at 3:33 p.m.
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I wonder if Lafrenière could fetch more in sell than the retention and convince the Molson to accept such deal.


Yet, if you think from the other teams view point, you'd realize how ridiculous this is.
Dec. 11, 2022 at 3:53 p.m.
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Use your tools


using tools do pollute earth too much and human-monkey do like pollution more than just having fun chating!
Dec. 11, 2022 at 3:53 p.m.
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Yet, if you think from the other teams view point, you'd realize how ridiculous this is.


maybe, maybe not!
Dec. 11, 2022 at 4:04 p.m.
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maybe, maybe not!


Maybe. Is the right answer btw.
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Dec. 11, 2022 at 4:12 p.m.
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Maybe. Is the right answer btw.
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no need to see say the boy in the game
 
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