Shouldve traded Miller

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Created by: Mallin

Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 11, 2022

Published: Dec. 11, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Enough cap space to resign kuzmenko and severson

Trades

VAN

Newhook, Alex
2023 5th round pick (COL)

COL

Horvat, Bo ($2,500,000 retained)

VAN

Lucic, Milan
2024 3rd round pick (CGY)

CGY

Pearson, Tanner

VAN

NJD

Buyouts

Braden Holtby: $1,900,000
Jake Virtanen: $500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Bo Horvat: $2,500,000 (60.61%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$82,500,000	$79,285,416	$1,250,000	$2,932,500	$3,214,584

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Miller, J.T. $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Pettersson, Elias $7,350,000$7,350,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Garland, Conor $4,950,000$4,950,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Kuzmenko, Andrei $950,000$950,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Newhook, Alex $908,333$908,333 ($850,000$850K) C, LW RFA - 1	Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2
Höglander, Nils $891,667$891,667 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW RFA - 1	Sharangovich, Yegor $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Mikheyev, Ilya $4,750,000$4,750,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4
Joshua, Dakota $825,000$825,000 LW UFA - 2	Studnicka, Jack $762,500$762,500 RW, C RFA - 2	Lazar, Curtis $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 3
Lucic, Milan $5,250,000$5,250,000 LW, RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Åman, Nils $883,750$883,750 ($82,500$82K) C RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Quinn $7,850,000$7,850,000 LD UFA - 5	Severson, Damon $4,166,666$4,166,666 RD UFA - 1	Demko, Thatcher $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 4
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 5	Bear, Ethan $1,800,000$1,800,000 RD UFA - 1	Martin, Spencer $762,500$762,500 G UFA - 2
Stillman, Riley $1,350,000$1,350,000 LD RFA - 2	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2
Dermott, Travis $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Burroughs, Kyle $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Ferland, Micheal $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
		Poolman, Tucker $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 3

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Miller, J.		Sharangovich, Y.		Kuzmenko, A.
	Hughes, Q.		Pettersson, E.

Power Play 2
Garland, C.		Newhook, A.		Podkolzin, V.
	Mikheyev, I.		Severson, D.

Penalty Kill 1
	Joshua, D.	Mikheyev, I.
	Ekman-Larsson, O.	Myers, T.

Penalty Kill 2
	Sharangovich, Y.	Höglander, N.
	Hughes, Q.	Bear, E.

Dec. 11, 2022 at 5:24 p.m.

Erkadurk347

Joined: Sep. 2020

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Severson >> Schenn
Sharangovich >>> Boeser
Stillman = Rathbone

How is that value remotely close to fair

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Dec. 11, 2022 at 5:24 p.m.

pretzelcoatl

n.1 Topias Vilen fan

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Devils aren't remotely interested

Dec. 11, 2022 at 5:24 p.m.

coga16

Joined: Jun. 2015

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The reason teams didn’t meet the Canucks demands is bc they knew what miller was. His underlying numbers for years showed this. Now it’s all coming out to light and they have 8 more years of jt

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Dec. 11, 2022 at 5:26 p.m.

Tintin

do not Devil my ass

Joined: Sep. 2020

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I think you're about one lottery pick short in value going to the Devils holy smokes that's bad.

Like Erkadurk mentioned, Schenn and Boeser are straight downgrades on Shango and Severson.
Also, the Devils have LHD prospects vying for a job in the NHL falling out of their ears, they'd just have to waive Rathbone by next season as there's no spot for him in that lineup!

Dec. 11, 2022 at 5:28 p.m.

pretzelcoatl

n.1 Topias Vilen fan

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Quoting: Erkadurk347

Severson >> Schenn
Sharangovich >>> Boeser
Stillman = Rathbone

How is that value remotely close to fair

You're right on the first two points, but Rathbone is a way better prospect than Stillman. Stillman is perhaps the biggest waste of a first round pick in Devils history.

Dec. 11, 2022 at 5:33 p.m.

Riley816

Joined: May 2018

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Think Calgary would rather not have Pearson's 3.25 mil contract for 23-24 season.

I can't figure out the excess value for NJ in that trade.

Dec. 11, 2022 at 6:00 p.m.

IDKtbh

Stats Are For Losers

Joined: Nov. 2021

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Man, the Canucks were in such a good position for the future BEFORE they traded for Miller, let alone the additional misstep of re-signing him.

Dec. 11, 2022 at 7:19 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: pretzelcoatl

You're right on the first two points, but Rathbone is a way better prospect than Stillman. Stillman is perhaps the biggest waste of a first round pick in Devils history.

Neil Brady?
Corrente? Tedenby? Josefsson?
The whole Rocky for Rockies thing?

Dec. 11, 2022 at 8:17 p.m.

pretzelcoatl

n.1 Topias Vilen fan

Joined: Jul. 2021

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Neil Brady?
Corrente? Tedenby? Josefsson?
The whole Rocky for Rockies thing?

Okay I wasn't well versed in prospects older than ~10 years, but I'd confidently bet that Stillman is never an effective player at the NHL level.

Dec. 11, 2022 at 8:24 p.m.

#10

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: pretzelcoatl

Okay I wasn't well versed in prospects older than ~10 years, but I'd confidently bet that Stillman is never an effective player at the NHL level.

Yeah, there aren’t different degrees of zero. It is absolute.

At least we didn’t sink the higher pick into him.

Dec. 11, 2022 at 8:43 p.m.

#11

TJTwolf

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It's still a no for Bo for the Avs. Can't afford him.

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