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Timo Time

Created by: T0R
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 14, 2022
Published: Dec. 14, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
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Move Meier at the draft in a sign & trade for some big assets similar to the Tkachuk to Florida deal, unless Timo wants to talk about a big discount
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Knies, Matthew3$899,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Meier, Timo ($3,000,000 retained)
SJS
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Niemelä, Topi
  3. Robertson, Nicholas
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
  5. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$76,272,746$212,500$0$6,227,254
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Meier, Timo
$0
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Knies, Matthew
$899,000
LW
RFA
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Holmberg, Pontus
$827,500
C
RFA - 1
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Järnkrok, Calle
$2,100,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Aston-Reese, Zach
$840,630
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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Engvall, Pierre
$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Murray, Matt
$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Sandin, Rasmus
$1,400,000
LD
RFA - 2
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Liljegren, Timothy
$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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Samsonov, Ilya
$1,800,000
G
RFA - 1
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Giordano, Mark
$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Timmins, Conor
$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
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Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Benn, Jordie
$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2

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Dec. 14, 2022 at 7:56 p.m.
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why wouldn't every contender do this knowing they'll at worst recoup a 1st and prospect back for Meier after using him as a rental? I'm sure if teams think like this, many bidders will drive the price WAY up, with the intention of dealing him in the summer.

You'd probably have to go Knies+Niemela+1st and maybe more, and hope you recoup some value in the offseason, which I wouldn't be keen on
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Dec. 14, 2022 at 8:02 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 14, 2022 at 8:09 p.m.
Quoting: leafs101
why wouldn't every contender do this knowing they'll at worst recoup a 1st and prospect back for Meier after using him as a rental? I'm sure if teams think like this, many bidders will drive the price WAY up, with the intention of dealing him in the summer.

You'd probably have to go Knies+Niemela+1st and maybe more, and hope you recoup some value in the offseason, which I wouldn't be keen on


The other problem is that Toronto (or any other contender with no cap next year) won't be able to recuperate much because other teams will know they can't afford Meier.
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Dec. 14, 2022 at 8:49 p.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
why wouldn't every contender do this knowing they'll at worst recoup a 1st and prospect back for Meier after using him as a rental? I'm sure if teams think like this, many bidders will drive the price WAY up, with the intention of dealing him in the summer.

You'd probably have to go Knies+Niemela+1st and maybe more, and hope you recoup some value in the offseason, which I wouldn't be keen on


Or it’s a sneaky move that no one saw coming & you look like a genius if you actually get him at that price then get rid of him for a couple great assets at the draft.
Dec. 14, 2022 at 9:02 p.m.
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I never got why teams didn't do this more often lol
Dec. 14, 2022 at 9:07 p.m.
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Quoting: T0R
Or it’s a sneaky move that no one saw coming & you look like a genius if you actually get him at that price then get rid of him for a couple great assets at the draft.


If teams have the cap to sign Meirer why would they give up a couple of great assets to acquire him? Just sign a UFA.
Dec. 14, 2022 at 9:17 p.m.
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I never got why teams didn't do this more often lol


Because the first team would never take a cap dump, b prospect, a tiny prospect and a 1st 2 yrs from now for him retained
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Dec. 14, 2022 at 9:28 p.m.
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Because the first team would never take a cap dump, b prospect, a tiny prospect and a 1st 2 yrs from now for him retained


By Cap Dump you mean the highest scoring player (excluding ELCs) under $5M last year.
By B Propspect you mean the guy most analysts think will be a top D in the league and who is a great leader
By Tiny Propspect well you are right on that the guy can't avoid being injured for more than 2 minutes

You know, you are wrong, but this trade is also stupid.
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Dec. 15, 2022 at 10:24 a.m.
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Or it’s a sneaky move that no one saw coming & you look like a genius if you actually get him at that price then get rid of him for a couple great assets at the draft.


if we've thought of it here, NHL offices have thought of it
 
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