if only they did this instead of debrincat

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Created by: leafs101

Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 15, 2022

Published: Dec. 15, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

OTT

Tkachuk, Matthew

Additional Details:

They give CGY the assets they gave CHI plus these assets.

FLA

OTT

Durzi, Sean
2024 4th round pick (LAK)

LAK

Brännström, Erik
2024 2nd round pick (WSH)

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
Colin White: $875,000
Michael Del Zotto: $500,000
Dion Phaneuf: $354,167

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$82,500,000	$79,584,881	$0	$4,025,000	$2,915,119

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 6	Stützle, Tim $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Tkachuk, Matthew $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW UFA - 8
Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 5	Norris, Joshua $7,950,000$7,950,000 C UFA - 8	Giroux, Claude $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 3
Motte, Tyler $1,350,000$1,350,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 1	Joseph, Mathieu $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW, RW UFA - 4
Brassard, Derick $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Kelly, Parker $762,500$762,500 LW RFA - 2	Gambrell, Dylan $950,000$950,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 6	Zub, Artem $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Talbot, Cam $3,666,667$3,666,667 G UFA - 1
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LD UFA - 2	Durzi, Sean $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 3
Holden, Nick $1,300,000$1,300,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Hamonic, Travis $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2

Taxi Squad
Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 ($375,000$375K$375,000$375K) RW, LW UFA - 1
Kastelic, Mark $821,667$821,667 ($0$0$0$0) C, RW RFA - 1
Heatherington, Dillon $762,500$762,500 ($0$0$0$0) LD UFA - 2
Lucchini, Jacob $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) RW, C, LW UFA - 1
Chartier, Rourke $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1

Dec. 15, 2022 at 12:34 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Assumes Matt would sign

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Dec. 15, 2022 at 12:40 p.m.

Lenny7

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Assumes Matt would sign

Probably higher AAV.

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Dec. 15, 2022 at 12:41 p.m.

bagelbob

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honestly calgary would probably decline that offer if the panthers offer was still on the table

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Dec. 15, 2022 at 12:44 p.m.

SevenLeg

Hop on the Slaftrain

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Thing is, Matthew only had a handful destinations he was willing sign long term and Ottawa was surely not among these.

Dec. 15, 2022 at 1:08 p.m.

sens65

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Ottawa will barely be able to afford DeBrincat, signing Tkachuk for more money makes no sense. Plus, DeBrincat is playing fantastic right now.

Dec. 15, 2022 at 2:09 p.m.

SpinyLiving

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Matthew wanted to leave Canada and was only willing to go to a team in an income taxless state (Vegas, Dallas, Florida) or back home to St. Louis. He wouldn't sign in Ottawa

Dec. 15, 2022 at 2:39 p.m.

Xspyrit

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2022 1st round pick (#7 OA)
Ostapchuk, Zack : 1st round pick value to the Sens, is becoming the 2nd best prospect after Greig)
Bernard-Docker, Jacob : 1st round pick value to the Sens, is expected to play a crucial defensive role on RD in the future
2022 2nd round pick (#39 OA)
2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
2024 3rd round pick (OTT)

It's a heavy price but MT is one the few players I would have done it for (assuming he'd want to stay in Canada of course)

Tkachuk-Norris-Tkachuk would be one of the best lines in hockey, a pure force out there

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Dec. 15, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.

leafs101

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Quoting: Xspyrit

thats where my head is at. Of course this is unrealistic as many comments have kindly pointed out, but regardless of the cost there's not a line in the league that matches up to a Tkachuk wing combo in terms of the combo of skill and physical play.

And I know he wanted to go to the States but you've gotta think going to OTT to play with his brother would've been the exception. Likely only signs 6 years though to go UFA with Brady which probably means he tries to up the AAV a bit but still

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Dec. 15, 2022 at 2:49 p.m.

dannibalcorpse

we miss leo k

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Quoting: SevenLeg

Thing is, Matthew only had a handful destinations he was willing sign long term and Ottawa was surely not among these.

god, i feel like there's some juicy gossip there - you'd think Ottawa would be the *only* Canadian city he'd be fine with, for the obvious reason---but he's not!

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Dec. 15, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.

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leafs101

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Quoting: dannibalcorpse

god, i feel like there's some juicy gossip there - you'd think Ottawa would be the *only* Canadian city he'd be fine with, for the obvious reason---but he's not!

was he not willing to go to OTT? I thought at the time they were saying it was the only Canadian team he had on his list

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Dec. 15, 2022 at 2:55 p.m.

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dannibalcorpse

we miss leo k

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Quoting: leafs101

was he not willing to go to OTT? I thought at the time they were saying it was the only Canadian team he had on his list

I honestly don't remember what his limitations were (it was August, the Mets were good this year, and Lou was refusing to make any move for the Islanders so I had checked out of NHL news for a bit) but if Ottawa wasn't on the list...hachi machi, there's some fun to be had speculatin right there

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Dec. 15, 2022 at 3:02 p.m.

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sensonfire

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Matthew Tkachuk wanted to play in the U.S., not in Canada.

It's why he refused a long-term extension with Calgary.

And the Kings decline the second trade.

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