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Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 16, 2022
Published: Dec. 16, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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habs draft

7th overall - will smith
13th overall - Matthew wood
Free Agent Signings
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3$925,000
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Smith, Will
3$925,000
Wood, Matthew
3$925,000
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1.
MTL
  1. 2023 1st round pick (NJD)
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idk apparently they want him and insiders say he has value
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MTL
  1. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
3.
MTL
  1. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Monahan, Sean ($3,150,000 retained)
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MTL
  1. 2023 6th round pick (ARI)
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all off the team
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2023
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26$82,500,000$59,419,722$1,132,500$5,655,000$23,080,278
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UFA - 8
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 4
Wood, Matthew
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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UFA - 1
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RFA - 3
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UFA - 3
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RFA - 4
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UFA - 1
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RFA - 2
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
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UFA - 4
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UFA - 3
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Dec. 17, 2022 at 12:18 a.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
Why did both those teams scratched him if he is that good? Why would MTL scratch him over Jake Evans? Why not scratch Anderson instead?

Analytics are made so soft skilled players look good. They don't take the physical aspect of the game into consideration.

But everyone knows you don't need physical players in the playoffs because the games are softer. Right?


Hahahahahahahaha oh my god it happened verbatim
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Dec. 17, 2022 at 12:34 a.m.
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Hahahahahahahaha oh my god it happened verbatim


Just because you think someone would be stupid to answer that, doesn't mean i'm stupid to answer that. That's just your biased opinion. I just answered your questions.

But you not being able to answer any of my questions shows how ignorant you are. You can't even think why they scratched him over lower skilled players.

But anyway, i don't care about someone who think NHL playoffs games are softer than regular season games opinion. You really seem to understand how playoffs works with those cute little stats.
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Dec. 17, 2022 at 12:55 a.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
Tatar would score more points. But he won't do the things that need to be done to win in the playoffs. Anderson will.

Habs scratched Tatar and replaced him with Jake Evans in the playoffs. That shows Tatar value in the playoffs.


But you do realize the choice of trading a 1st round pick isn't Josh Anderson or NOTHING right? The Devils could get a good player for that?
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Dec. 17, 2022 at 2:27 a.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
But you do realize the choice of trading a 1st round pick isn't Josh Anderson or NOTHING right? The Devils could get a good player for that?


I agree they could get another smallish skilled player. But looking at their very good lineup, the best upgrade i could see is adding size on the top 6.

I'm confident Anderson would score 25 to 30 goals every year with one of your 2 elite centers, and they would benefit from a big power forward like Anderson.

He's not a big point producer, but he's top 6 worthy. Some of things he does on the ice, not many players can. He's really fast for his size.

As for the price, Kent Hughes refused offers for Anderson. Sure the price is at least a 1st. Or you can keep the late 1st and draft a late 1st prospect with it.
Dec. 17, 2022 at 2:44 a.m.
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I agree they could get another smallish skilled player. But looking at their very good lineup, the best upgrade i could see is adding size on the top 6.

I'm confident Anderson would score 25 to 30 goals every year with one of your 2 elite centers, and they would benefit from a big power forward like Anderson.

He's not a big point producer, but he's top 6 worthy. Some of things he does on the ice, not many players can. He's really fast for his size.

As for the price, Kent Hughes refused offers for Anderson. Sure the price is at least a 1st. Or you can keep the late 1st and draft a late 1st prospect with it.


I'll let someone else pay that 1st. I don't see him worth that price for his cap hit and his production. He can't even play top 6 on the Habs let alone the Devils.

In the case of Meier, most fans can agree that he's worth a 1st and a prospect. No one outside of Habs fans think Josh Anderson is worth a 1st in the slightest.
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Dec. 17, 2022 at 4:05 a.m.
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I'll let someone else pay that 1st. I don't see him worth that price for his cap hit and his production. He can't even play top 6 on the Habs let alone the Devils.

In the case of Meier, most fans can agree that he's worth a 1st and a prospect. No one outside of Habs fans think Josh Anderson is worth a 1st in the slightest.


I wouldn't want MTL to give a 1st for a player like Anderson either. It's not about if he's worth a 1st, but will he be traded for a 1st? I think so.

Chiarot wasn't worth a 1st. The asking price was a 1st. So far, Hughes got what he wanted for every player he traded. And he said he want to add another 2023 1st.

I agree Meier is a better player, but he will ask for 8M. Not many teams can afford that. Giving a 1st and a good prospect for a rental is bad.
Dec. 17, 2022 at 9:09 a.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
Just because you think someone would be stupid to answer that, doesn't mean i'm stupid to answer that. That's just your biased opinion. I just answered your questions.

But you not being able to answer any of my questions shows how ignorant you are. You can't even think why they scratched him over lower skilled players.

But anyway, i don't care about someone who think NHL playoffs games are softer than regular season games opinion. You really seem to understand how playoffs works with those cute little stats.


My guy I just showed you that Tatar drives better results that Anderson - because at the end of the day the point is to score goals, not hit people - and you immediately just appealed to authority and gave me hockey truisms with absolutely no evidence to support them.

Grow up and learn a little my man, especially before you call people ignorant when their well-supported hypothesis is backed up with statistical evidence and your hypothesis is “well it FEELS like Anderson should be better in the playoffs”
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Dec. 17, 2022 at 11:01 a.m.
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I wouldn't want MTL to give a 1st for a player like Anderson either. It's not about if he's worth a 1st, but will he be traded for a 1st? I think so.

Chiarot wasn't worth a 1st. The asking price was a 1st. So far, Hughes got what he wanted for every player he traded. And he said he want to add another 2023 1st.

I agree Meier is a better player, but he will ask for 8M. Not many teams can afford that. Giving a 1st and a good prospect for a rental is bad.


Devils could be one of those teams that could afford Meier however. I would argue a 1st for Anderson would be worse than a rental as you are stuck with his low performing 82 games during the season compared to that hefty contract.

Many thought Florida was the big loser for giving up a 1st for Chiarot, but in the end the rest of the fans of the league lost that use CapFriendly because we all have to deal with MTL fans dining off that AWFUL trade from the get go, as if all GMs are that dumb, even though there is zero evidence to someone like Fitzgerald ever making a trade like that in this case.
Dec. 17, 2022 at 11:27 a.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
Why did both those teams scratched him if he is that good? Why would MTL scratch him over Jake Evans? Why not scratch Anderson instead?

Analytics are made so soft skilled players look good. They don't take the physical aspect of the game into consideration.

But everyone knows you don't need physical players in the playoffs because the games are softer. Right?


Josh Anderson had 6 points in 22 GP during the 2020-21 playoffs with 87 hits.

Matt Martin had 6 points in 22 GP during the 2019-20 playoffs with 103 hits.

Josh Anderson makes $5.5M and Matt Martin makes only $1.5M.

Matt Martin has proven to be just as productive in the playoffs and is more physical. Should teams be giving up a 1st for him, too?
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Dec. 17, 2022 at 11:36 a.m.
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I'm saying he's been fine this season, I'll worry about playoffs in the playoffs,

But trying to sell me on JOSH ANDERSON in the playoffs is better???


16-17 22 CBJ NHL 5 1 1 2 2 2 1 0 0 0 11 9.1 19 69 13:43 1 2 33.3 2 18 3 0
2017-18 23 CBJ NHL 6 1 2 3 3 21 1 0 0 0 9 11.1 19 95 15:46 0 1 0.0 3 14 2 1
2018-19 24 CBJ NHL 10 1 2 3 -5 22 0 0 1 0 23 4.3 31 170 16:59 2 6 25.0 6 46 5 2
2020-21 26 MTL NHL 22 5 1 6 -1 12 5 0 0 2 50 10.0 90 319 14:30 8 6 57.1 8 87 4 3


Josh Anderson isn't much of a playoff guy either...


False equivalence.
You said Tatar has been better in Jersey. Anderson has nothing to do with Tatar's performance. Tatar's best year by far was in 2019 w/ MTL when he had 61 pts in 68 games. No year comes close.

Im not talking about Anderson and going in circles. Thats not how you argue.
Dec. 17, 2022 at 11:46 a.m.
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False equivalence.
You said Tatar has been better in Jersey. Anderson has nothing to do with Tatar's performance. Tatar's best year by far was in 2019 w/ MTL when he had 61 pts in 68 games. No year comes close.

Im not talking about Anderson and going in circles. Thats not how you argue.


I thought you were arguing along the lines of the last guy.

To just Tatar, he has actually been fine this year. As I said previous, I wasn't even a big fan of his, but he's been better than I expected this year.
Dec. 17, 2022 at 2:28 p.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
Why did both those teams scratched him if he is that good? Why would MTL scratch him over Jake Evans? Why not scratch Anderson instead?

Analytics are made so soft skilled players look good. They don't take the physical aspect of the game into consideration.

But everyone knows you don't need physical players in the playoffs because the games are softer. Right?


own that bozo.
Dec. 17, 2022 at 2:30 p.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
Just because you think someone would be stupid to answer that, doesn't mean i'm stupid to answer that. That's just your biased opinion. I just answered your questions.

But you not being able to answer any of my questions shows how ignorant you are. You can't even think why they scratched him over lower skilled players.

But anyway, i don't care about someone who think NHL playoffs games are softer than regular season games opinion. You really seem to understand how playoffs works with those cute little stats.

guys got no idea what he's talking about. It's one thing to say you hope your team doesn't trade a first round pick for Anderson, it's another to say that Tatar is better than Anderson come playoff time.
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Dec. 17, 2022 at 3:04 p.m.
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My guy I just showed you that Tatar drives better results that Anderson - because at the end of the day the point is to score goals, not hit people - and you immediately just appealed to authority and gave me hockey truisms with absolutely no evidence to support them.

Grow up and learn a little my man, especially before you call people ignorant when their well-supported hypothesis is backed up with statistical evidence and your hypothesis is “well it FEELS like Anderson should be better in the playoffs”


My hypothesis is not i feel Anderson should be better... All i said is Tatar was scratched over Anderson because Anderson is more fit for how the playoffs are played.

I don't think a team full of points producer with no grit would make it far into the playoffs. Leafs proved that in the last 3 years.

I called you ignorant because i answered your question, and instead of answering mine, you laughed at me. Again, answering Anderson is a physical player, and physical play is part of the playoffs, doesn't make me stupid. I'm just stating facts you don't seem to understand.
Dec. 17, 2022 at 3:05 p.m.
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I thought you were arguing along the lines of the last guy.

To just Tatar, he has actually been fine this year. As I said previous, I wasn't even a big fan of his, but he's been better than I expected this year.


As he was better than we expected when Vegas dumped him to MTL in the Pacioretty trade. We still scratched him comes playoffs time.
Dec. 17, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.
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Josh Anderson had 6 points in 22 GP during the 2020-21 playoffs with 87 hits.

Matt Martin had 6 points in 22 GP during the 2019-20 playoffs with 103 hits.

Josh Anderson makes $5.5M and Matt Martin makes only $1.5M.

Matt Martin has proven to be just as productive in the playoffs and is more physical. Should teams be giving up a 1st for him, too?


Which player do you think have more chance to be traded for a 1st? Anderson or Martin?

Not talking about your personal preference, just market value.
Dec. 17, 2022 at 3:42 p.m.
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My hypothesis is not i feel Anderson should be better... All i said is Tatar was scratched over Anderson because Anderson is more fit for how the playoffs are played.

I don't think a team full of points producer with no grit would make it far into the playoffs. Leafs proved that in the last 3 years.

I called you ignorant because i answered your question, and instead of answering mine, you laughed at me. Again, answering Anderson is a physical player, and physical play is part of the playoffs, doesn't make me stupid. I'm just stating facts you don't seem to understand.

You know what else is part of the playoffs? Scoring more than your opponent. Something Tatar is better at lol
Dec. 17, 2022 at 8:53 p.m.
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
You know what else is part of the playoffs? Scoring more than your opponent. Something Tatar is better at lol


Think a team with zero grit can get far into the playoffs?
Dec. 17, 2022 at 9:16 p.m.
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Think a team with zero grit can get far into the playoffs?


Sure, if they’re the better team! Penguins, Hawks, Avs, Oilers

Not like it matters in the devils case. They have plenty of bottom 6 grit, which is what Anderson is lol
Dec. 17, 2022 at 9:23 p.m.
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Sure, if they’re the better team! Penguins, Hawks, Avs, Oilers

Not like it matters in the devils case. They have plenty of bottom 6 grit, which is what Anderson is lol


Leafs were the better team in all their playoffs matchup in the last few years. They lost every series.

All those teams you named had some grit and toughness. Oilers have 0 grit, and never go far into playoffs. That's why they're looking at Edmundson.

Devils are probably the softest team in the NHL. Stop it with your fake bottom 6 grit. I see no one i'd consider tough on that roster, even at defense.

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/new-jersey-devils/line-combinations/
Dec. 17, 2022 at 10:20 p.m.
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Leafs were the better team in all their playoffs matchup in the last few years. They lost every series.

All those teams you named had some grit and toughness. Oilers have 0 grit, and never go far into playoffs. That's why they're looking at Edmundson.

Devils are probably the softest team in the NHL. Stop it with your fake bottom 6 grit. I see no one i'd consider tough on that roster, even at defense.

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/new-jersey-devils/line-combinations/


Lol okay pal. Have a good one!
Dec. 17, 2022 at 10:48 p.m.
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Lol okay pal. Have a good one!


Devils are so soft, it's too hard to name one tough player on your own team?

Everyone knows Devils need to get tougher for playoffs except Devils fans.
Dec. 18, 2022 at 3:20 p.m.
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Devils are so soft, it's too hard to name one tough player on your own team?

Wood, Palat, Bastian, McLeod, Hischier, Siegenthaler, Marino, Smith, Bahl, Okhotiuk.
Enough?
Quoting: LIRIK
Everyone knows Devils need to get tougher for playoffs except Devils fans.

Yes but nNot to the tune of paying a 1st for frickin Josh Anderson, they don't.
Why wouldn't they just trade a 3rd for JvR if they needed a big guy with a scoring touch come on man.
Dec. 18, 2022 at 9:18 p.m.
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Wood, Palat, Bastian, McLeod, Hischier, Siegenthaler, Marino, Smith, Bahl, Okhotiuk.
Enough?

Yes but nNot to the tune of paying a 1st for frickin Josh Anderson, they don't.
Why wouldn't they just trade a 3rd for JvR if they needed a big guy with a scoring touch come on man.


None of those are considered tough by anyone except Devils fans. Armia is tougher than them, and i don't consider him tough. Anderson, Xhekaj, Edmundson, Savard... That's toughness.

I'm not saying Devils should pay a 1st for him. Just that it's the asking price, and MTL got no reason to move him unless they gets what they want.

After signing Caufield and Harris, MTL will have over 12M in cap space next summer. Why would they trade Anderson for cheap?
 
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