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Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 20, 2022
Published: Dec. 20, 2022
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VAN
  1. Kaut, Martin
  2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
  3. 2024 4th round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Horvat, Bo ($2,750,000 retained)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (VAN)
2.
VAN
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
3.
VAN
  1. 2023 7th round pick (MIN)
4.
VAN
  1. Patrick, Nolan
  2. 2023 1st round pick (VGK)
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2023
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2024
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22$82,500,000$75,840,416$1,250,000$1,657,500$6,659,584
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
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$891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
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RFA - 1
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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RFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$883,750$883,750 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
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LD
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 4
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$7,260,000$7,260,000
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NMC
UFA - 5
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
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UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
C
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 1

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Dec. 20, 2022 at 7:51 p.m.
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yeah, the leafs still have zero need for schenn
Dec. 20, 2022 at 7:52 p.m.
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Boeser isn't worth a 1st
Dec. 20, 2022 at 7:52 p.m.
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Boeser isn’t worth that price.
Dec. 20, 2022 at 8:23 p.m.
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You can keep horvat
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 8:46 p.m.
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And again that’s a no. There is zero chance COL trades their 23 1st for a rental.
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 9:15 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yeah, the leafs still have zero need for schenn


Then why are all the real leafs fans consistantly trying to trade for him.
Dec. 20, 2022 at 9:17 p.m.
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Quoting: remowilliams
Then why are all the real leafs fans consistantly trying to trade for him.


no idea, doesnt make it a need though. Schenn doesnt even make the leafs roster
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 9:18 p.m.
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You can keep horvat


Hahaha ya Kaut is on his way to superstardom
Dec. 20, 2022 at 9:24 p.m.
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Hahaha ya Kaut is on his way to superstardom


who said that, you are making yourself look silly by saying that

You can keep Horvat bc its wasting assets on a rental that the avs cant extend. Simple concept to follow along with
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 10:16 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
who said that, you are making yourself look silly by saying that

You can keep Horvat bc its wasting assets on a rental that the avs cant extend. Simple concept to follow along with


I think you are the one that looks silly saying you wouldnt wanna give up a 1st and Kaut for Horvat.

And you can extend him, prob means someone else has to go but pretty doable.
Dec. 20, 2022 at 10:41 p.m.
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Quoting: BigShoots
I think you are the one that looks silly saying you wouldnt wanna give up a 1st and Kaut for Horvat.

And you can extend him, prob means someone else has to go but pretty doable.


No the avs can’t extend him, this isn’t that hard to grasp.
And I don’t want to burn assets on a guy who they can’t keep.
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Dec. 21, 2022 at 1:53 a.m.
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do not Devil my ass
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Brock Boeser, one of the worst performing players throughout the league at 5v5 signed to a 6.65m anchor for two more years does not return a top4 RHD nor a 1st rd pick let alone both.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 10:43 a.m.
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You do realize the Wild gave Kulikov away to the Ducks for nothing, why would the Wild trade a 7th rounder for a 7/8th dman that we don't need....the Wild decline.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 2:17 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
No the avs can’t extend him, this isn’t that hard to grasp.
And I don’t want to burn assets on a guy who they can’t keep.


Trade Girard in the off season, promote Byram. Compher, Rodriguez, Johnson come off. Sign Horvat. Not that difficult to figure out.

Even if it was just for one playoff run, when your a in place to compete for a cup a 1st in the high 20s to 30s is so little to give up for a bonafide 2nd line center who can score and win faceoffs. You're clutching pearls is all.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: BigShoots
Trade Girard in the off season, promote Byram. Compher, Rodriguez, Johnson come off. Sign Horvat. Not that difficult to figure out.

Even if it was just for one playoff run, when your a in place to compete for a cup a 1st in the high 20s to 30s is so little to give up for a bonafide 2nd line center who can score and win faceoffs. You're clutching pearls is all.


You haven’t actually done the math on the cap space next year huh
Dec. 21, 2022 at 4:46 p.m.
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You haven’t actually done the math on the cap space next year huh


Youre right you are kinda in big trouble. Ironically still incredible value as a rental. This yr will probably represent the best chance to win for a few yrs. Certainly can't go into the playoffs without a 2c. Can't think of one that would be available for a late first and Kaut.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 4:47 p.m.
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Youre right you are kinda in big trouble. Ironically still incredible value as a rental. This yr will probably represent the best chance to win for a few yrs. Certainly can't go into the playoffs without a 2c. Can't think of one that would be available for a late first and Kaut.


you really arent grasping this...
no point of continuing this....you are getting hung up on the wrong things here.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 11:43 p.m.
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you really arent grasping this...
no point of continuing this....you are getting hung up on the wrong things here.


No I get it. Im saying he's still an insanely cheap rental at that price.
Dec. 22, 2022 at 12:01 a.m.
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No I get it. Im saying he's still an insanely cheap rental at that price.


You still don’t get it
Dec. 22, 2022 at 12:06 a.m.
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You still don’t get it


Tell me what I don't get ?
Dec. 22, 2022 at 9:18 a.m.
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Tell me what I don't get ?


they have limited assets left that they can invest in improving the team, they cant put them into players they have 0 chance of keeping. It doesnt matter In your opinion that this is a cheap cost for Horvat as a rental, they shouldn't be moving the 2023 1st into a guy for just a few months.

They can invest those assets into pick ups that they can keep beyond the playoff run. Horvat is not the only option in how to improve the avs centre position. And they arent keeping him bc he wants 8m aav. You dont tear down part of your roster and tie up all that cap space into a player who would be their 5th maybe 6th best player.

Horvat is the fun power up option who cares how to keep the team together move, but the avs dont operate like that.
They will add, but they wont be reckless moving the 2023 1st for a pure rental to do so

this has nothing to do with Horvat the player, the perceived cost to acquire him as being cheap/overpay whatever is being yelled into an echo chamber this site depending on what day it is....its just the concept of acquiring him. The logic behind the move really doesnt make sense when you combine everything that impacts the team after said move. It is just not a fit business wise despite how much people what the player fits on a roster
Dec. 22, 2022 at 1:27 p.m.
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they have limited assets left that they can invest in improving the team, they cant put them into players they have 0 chance of keeping. It doesnt matter In your opinion that this is a cheap cost for Horvat as a rental, they shouldn't be moving the 2023 1st into a guy for just a few months.

They can invest those assets into pick ups that they can keep beyond the playoff run. Horvat is not the only option in how to improve the avs centre position. And they arent keeping him bc he wants 8m aav. You dont tear down part of your roster and tie up all that cap space into a player who would be their 5th maybe 6th best player.

Horvat is the fun power up option who cares how to keep the team together move, but the avs dont operate like that.
They will add, but they wont be reckless moving the 2023 1st for a pure rental to do so

this has nothing to do with Horvat the player, the perceived cost to acquire him as being cheap/overpay whatever is being yelled into an echo chamber this site depending on what day it is....its just the concept of acquiring him. The logic behind the move really doesnt make sense when you combine everything that impacts the team after said move. It is just not a fit business wise despite how much people what the player fits on a roster


I mean that concept hasn't escaped me. I just think when you are in a situation of win now, a late first really isn't that valuable to you. That player is 2-4 yrs away if they make it.

Not that you could ever get Horvat for that price but if it were on offer Sakic would snap it up in a heartbeat. It might just be that they rent this season and keep giving Newhook looks. If they are looking for a longer term solution who is that in your mind? They've gotta make around what 4-5 mil? Whoever that is they're almost without a doubt significantly less of a player than Horvat.

My objection wasn't that you should take Horvat, it was that at that pitiful amount to give up you'd be absolutely crazy not to. Sakic was more than willing to give up picks to attain players last season. And while he did sign them. I think he realizes he can't sign guys anymore. Rentals will be an option going forward in my opinion. Lets see what happens.
Dec. 22, 2022 at 3:45 p.m.
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Quoting: BigShoots
I mean that concept hasn't escaped me. I just think when you are in a situation of win now, a late first really isn't that valuable to you. That player is 2-4 yrs away if they make it.

Not that you could ever get Horvat for that price but if it were on offer Sakic would snap it up in a heartbeat. It might just be that they rent this season and keep giving Newhook looks. If they are looking for a longer term solution who is that in your mind? They've gotta make around what 4-5 mil? Whoever that is they're almost without a doubt significantly less of a player than Horvat.

My objection wasn't that you should take Horvat, it was that at that pitiful amount to give up you'd be absolutely crazy not to. Sakic was more than willing to give up picks to attain players last season. And while he did sign them. I think he realizes he can't sign guys anymore. Rentals will be an option going forward in my opinion. Lets see what happens.


win now doesnt mean they have to change their philosophy how they do roster builds and moves. in the 10 years of sakic as GM, leading the management group, they have graded 1 first round pick in a trade, and that was at the start of last year for Kuemper bc they had no other option after Seattle over paid for Grubauer and the Oilers ran up the price on Kuemper via trade.

getting horvat for a run would be fun but its not the only solution out there, they still need to do smart business. Its hard to see them go all in trading the most valuable first round pick in terms of the depth of this draft class in a very long time for a pure rental.

They are tyring to build a dynasty as well, which means some years they cant go all in at the deadline. they have to pick their spots
Dec. 22, 2022 at 5:57 p.m.
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win now doesnt mean they have to change their philosophy how they do roster builds and moves. in the 10 years of sakic as GM, leading the management group, they have graded 1 first round pick in a trade, and that was at the start of last year for Kuemper bc they had no other option after Seattle over paid for Grubauer and the Oilers ran up the price on Kuemper via trade.

getting horvat for a run would be fun but its not the only solution out there, they still need to do smart business. Its hard to see them go all in trading the most valuable first round pick in terms of the depth of this draft class in a very long time for a pure rental.

They are tyring to build a dynasty as well, which means some years they cant go all in at the deadline. they have to pick their spots


Your strategy changes when you are building a team vs when you are competing. You never trade high picks while your builiding, simplest of rules follow by pretty much the whole league. Save a few dumbies like Jim Benning and Chuck Fletcher. I think you'll see a lot more of your first round picks traded in the next few yrs because you're always gonna be tight to the cap and a rental will be preferable to someone you have to pay the next season when no money is available. If the avs don't get a strong 2c before the deadline it will be a major failing. You can't give up a chance to win the cup when your team is this strong.

What other solutions do you have in mind? name some guys and what you think theyll cost.
Dec. 22, 2022 at 9:16 p.m.
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Your strategy changes when you are building a team vs when you are competing. You never trade high picks while your builiding, simplest of rules follow by pretty much the whole league. Save a few dumbies like Jim Benning and Chuck Fletcher. I think you'll see a lot more of your first round picks traded in the next few yrs because you're always gonna be tight to the cap and a rental will be preferable to someone you have to pay the next season when no money is available. If the avs don't get a strong 2c before the deadline it will be a major failing. You can't give up a chance to win the cup when your team is this strong.

What other solutions do you have in mind? name some guys and what you think theyll cost.


Or you are smart when you trade your high picks to ensure hit stay competitive

Look at Florida, they are the poster child how trading everything in a short time can back fire.

The cost of toews won’t be a 1st, they assume a 2nd is the most bs will get and won’t cost a lot to extend. A 2m aav with performance bonuses

Henrique is another option, he won’t cost an arm and a leg to obtain and he has 1 more year of terms, it’s been said ducks are willing to retain 50% to move him as he has been made available

Chytil in New Yorks name has popped up of guys who are available, young with multiple rfa years left. It’s easier to part with better assets bc of cost control status of an rfa

Those are just some example of guys who could the avs move on at the deadline

It’s not about are they better or worse than horvat, they aren’t. But it’s paying the right price for the need of the line up. They don’t need horvat, they can fill the need other ways

And let’s stop pretending like everyone knows what the avs 2c is like, we don’t, they haven’t played 1 game with their top 6 and they played multiple games with 5/6 of it injured. Before we make claims about the 2c not working or a hole, let’s see at least a game of their top 6 together first
 
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