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If You ReBuild It They Will Come

Created by: IDKtbh
Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 21, 2022
Published: Dec. 21, 2022
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I think we’re sorely lacking of prospects with offensive upside, specifically up the middle and we need an influx of those in our pipeline. Also, we don’t have much to speak of in terms of RHD prospects, so those are the two areas I aimed to address. This upcoming draft is loaded with high end centermen and skilled forwards even later in the 1st round.

The Bertuzzi deal is right on par with what his return should be; a 1st round pick in 2023 and a B (or better) prospect.

Moving Hronek will be unpopular amongst the Wings’ fanbase but, he’s been playing out of his mind this year at a PPG clip and I’m a firm believer in selling when values are high. NJD gets better right now by adding Hronek, and also gives them a replacement for next year when Severson is likely gone. Sundqvist gives them additional playoff enforcements with a big, versatile forward that can play every position, in any scenario on any line. The retention on Filip’s contract and taking back Johnnson’s contract is costly but I think the compensation is appropriate all things considered.

The Suter deal, I think Boston makes out like bandits. Replacing a high paid waiver dump with a quality two-way forward for only a couple mid picks.

The Oilers may be one of the most aggressive teams at the deadline and they are able to upgrade in multiple areas while dumping future salary on players that just aren’t cutting it in the process. This is another that likely won’t be very popular amongst Wings’ fans.

Obviously all of these trades are super unrealistic in the sense that we won’t be doing all of them but, I think they’re pretty logical and fair deals for all parties. I personally would be thrilled if something like this happened. I would use a majority of the picks in the first three rounds on centers/forwards.

The lineup I set was just for viewing purposes, I don’t expect the obvious players to suit up this year. I just wanted to get a look at what our magnificent defense would look like in a couple years. 😍
Free Agent Signings
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3$920,000
3$920,000
3$920,000
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Niemelä, Topi
  2. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
TOR
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler ($2,375,000 retained)
2.
DET
  1. Casey, Seamus [Reserve List]
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. 2023 1st round pick (NJD)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Hronek, Filip ($1,750,000 retained)
  2. Sundqvist, Oskar
3.
DET
  1. Smith, Craig
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (BOS)
  3. 2023 4th round pick (BOS)
4.
DET
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  3. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
  5. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
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2023
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23$82,500,000$72,482,223$0$3,940,000$10,017,777
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 2
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
C
RFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
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RFA - 2
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$878,333$878,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW, C
RFA - 3
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M-NTC
UFA - 5
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UFA - 1
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$1,460,000$1,460,000
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UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
RFA - 1
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LW
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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LD
RFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
G
RFA - 4
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$820,000$820,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$856,667$856,667
RD
RFA - 3
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
G
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UFA - 3
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$920,000$920,000
LD
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$920,000$920,000
RD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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G
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,825,000$1,825,000
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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LD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
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UFA - 1

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Dec. 21, 2022 at 9:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Byrr
It's not stubbornness, its common sense that you fail to grasp. Added risk lowers value. It's a basically universal concept which can be applied almost anywhere. There is added risk right now with Bertuzzi who is returning from surgery. This isn't really debatable, it should be a very simple concept but yet you still manage.

The great Leonardo Da Vinci once said, “there are three classes of people in this world; those who see, those who see when they are shown, and those who do not see”. You, my friend, fall into that third category.

Have a nice day.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 9:03 p.m.
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The great Leonardo Da Vinci once said, “there are three classes of people in this world; those who see, those who see when they are shown, and those who do not see”. You, my friend, fall into that third category.

Have a nice day.


Very ironic.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 9:04 p.m.
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I got the chance this year to watch a majority of the WJC games to get a glimpse at some of the Wings’ prospects. So, I paid close attention to Finland games to get a look at Emil Viro however, Topi Niemala was the player that stood out for me. I really liked what I saw from him and the Hirvonen kid looked pretty good too.


Interesting to hear a neutral take on the kid. Out of curiosity, what was the big standout aspect of his game?
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Dec. 21, 2022 at 9:19 p.m.
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Interesting to hear a neutral take on the kid. Out of curiosity, what was the big standout aspect of his game?

Well, for starters, a phenomenal skater. Talk about silky smooth, terrific lateral movement, good speed and just very athletically gifted overall.

He was the clear leader of the team, seemed to be in the right places at the right times, was really aggressive offensively, unafraid to put the puck on net and was very sound defensively with his stick and positioning.

He is going to be a really good player in the NHL, I have zero doubt about him. You guys should be very excited about him if he isn’t traded.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 9:38 p.m.
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As far as the Oilers & Maatta go, I feel like those two are a match made in heaven. I think at the bare minimum we get a 2nd for him alone but I figured it’s sexier to get the 1st rounders back so I made it worth their while.[/quote]

Walman would have to come out and it would be hard to get a gm to trade their top 3 picks all in one draft
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Dec. 21, 2022 at 10:04 p.m.
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Walman would have to come out and it would be hard to get a gm to trade their top 3 picks all in one draft


You don’t want Walman?
Dec. 22, 2022 at 7:59 a.m.
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Edited Dec. 22, 2022 at 8:47 a.m.
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Is this team in its current form, a Stanley Cup contender?
What areas on the team need to be addressed in order to compete with and/or win a series against the juggernauts of the league?

No, probably not this year.
In my view their competitive window starts in 23/24, this core needs to show that they can make the playoffs first before penciling them in as a contender.
The process by which they are generating offense and suppressing scoring chances against is VERY promising though, meaning that they should be able to sustain a pace throughout the season good enough to challenge for the division title.

The Devils are likely a top 5 team 5v5 right now, but shooting talent has been the biggest issue over the latest losing streak.
I'm not too bothered by it though as it's much better to be running a low shooting percentage than being consistently outshot and outchanced.

I don't think the Devils should do much of anything in terms of in-season trades or acquisitions.
This team is good enough to make the playoffs, and when (if) they make it there I expect them to be very competitive against any other more experienced opposition.
For future playoff rounds the Devils have time on their side in that they are one of the three youngest teams in the league and as such there is a lot of development left in younger guys and prospects that hasn't
occurred yet.
As such in 2-3 years when Nemec, Casey, Hughes, Holtz and Mukhammadulin are all arrived and fully settled into the league, the Devils will most likely be the juggernaut of the NHL.
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Do you see Severson returning next year? Graves? Siegenthaler? Everyone will be due raises or not return.

Severson - no, he'll likely walk as UFA, which I'm more than fine with.
Graves - I hope not, I hope the LD corps for 23/24 are made up by Siegenthaler, Luke Hughes and Bahl / Smith, there's no need for Graves here and the Devils could do without whatever contract he lands in FA.
Siegenthaler - already extended to a steal at 5 x 3.4m, likely to play on the Devils top pair for the rest of the decade.
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How many of the current forwards with a year left on their deals will return next year? The RFAs will be expensive.

Between Haula, Tatar, Wood, Johnsson I don't think any of them returns for next season, maybe 1 of Tatar or Wood at the most.
All the RFA's will be resigned but a lot of cap is coming off also, this is not going to be an issue.
(With McLeod we will have to see how the Hockey Canada situation plays out)
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Luke Hughes & Simon Nemec are incredible prospects but how far away are they? Next year? The year after?

Two years out from being drafted at #4 I have Luke Hughes pretty much penciled in as 2LHD for 23/24, most likely to be paired with John Marino.
Nemec is a bit up in the air, he was drafted just a few months ago so there's less certainty with how his development will play out.
As of now I lean against playing Nemec in the NHL right away for the 23/24 season, another year of AHL development should do him a lot of good.
Reilly Walsh is losing his waivers exemption for next season and will be 24 years of age in October 2023
I expect Walsh to be the better hockey player over Nemec for the start of 23/24 and should win the 3RHD job in camp next year.
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Dec. 22, 2022 at 10:23 a.m.
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You don’t want Walman?


Cap makes it hard dont get me wrong its not that i wouldn't want him on the oilers just cap space sucks
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Dec. 22, 2022 at 10:53 a.m.
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Thank you. I am curious as to what your impression is of the team in its current state. Obviously it’s been a successful season thus far for the Devils but, what move, if at all, do you see the team making to solidify themselves as a Stanley Cup contender?

Also, you guys really like Seamus, huh. Lol.


Devils are just playing the waiting game for L Hughes Nemec and Holtz to develop so no move this season I'd imagine. Also that is fair value for Hronek people obviously don't understand the season he is having so far
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Dec. 22, 2022 at 12:57 p.m.
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Cap makes it hard dont get me wrong its not that i wouldn't want him on the oilers just cap space sucks

I made the money work so, you actually would be paying less money for the 3 incoming players than the 2 going out.
Dec. 22, 2022 at 1:00 p.m.
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No, probably not this year.
In my view their competitive window starts in 23/24, this core needs to show that they can make the playoffs first before penciling them in as a contender.
The process by which they are generating offense and suppressing scoring chances against is VERY promising though, meaning that they should be able to sustain a pace throughout the season good enough to challenge for the division title.

The Devils are likely a top 5 team 5v5 right now, but shooting talent has been the biggest issue over the latest losing streak.
I'm not too bothered by it though as it's much better to be running a low shooting percentage than being consistently outshot and outchanced.

I don't think the Devils should do much of anything in terms of in-season trades or acquisitions.
This team is good enough to make the playoffs, and when (if) they make it there I expect them to be very competitive against any other more experienced opposition.
For future playoff rounds the Devils have time on their side in that they are one of the three youngest teams in the league and as such there is a lot of development left in younger guys and prospects that hasn't
occurred yet.
As such in 2-3 years when Nemec, Casey, Hughes, Holtz and Mukhammadulin are all arrived and fully settled into the league, the Devils will most likely be the juggernaut of the NHL.

Severson - no, he'll likely walk as UFA, which I'm more than fine with.
Graves - I hope not, I hope the LD corps for 23/24 are made up by Siegenthaler, Luke Hughes and Bahl / Smith, there's no need for Graves here and the Devils could do without whatever contract he lands in FA.
Siegenthaler - already extended to a steal at 5 x 3.4m, likely to play on the Devils top pair for the rest of the decade.

Between Haula, Tatar, Wood, Johnsson I don't think any of them returns for next season, maybe 1 of Tatar or Wood at the most.
All the RFA's will be resigned but a lot of cap is coming off also, this is not going to be an issue.
(With McLeod we will have to see how the Hockey Canada situation plays out)

Two years out from being drafted at #4 I have Luke Hughes pretty much penciled in as 2LHD for 23/24, most likely to be paired with John Marino.
Nemec is a bit up in the air, he was drafted just a few months ago so there's less certainty with how his development will play out.
As of now I lean against playing Nemec in the NHL right away for the 23/24 season, another year of AHL development should do him a lot of good.
Reilly Walsh is losing his waivers exemption for next season and will be 24 years of age in October 2023
I expect Walsh to be the better hockey player over Nemec for the start of 23/24 and should win the 3RHD job in camp next year.


Thanks for the perspective. It sounds like a lot of Devils fans are just happy/satisfied being team that’s competing this year and don’t really have any high hopes of being serious contenders despite the strong start.
 
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