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Eller

Created by: brgh4life
Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 22, 2022
Published: Dec. 22, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Arizona gets Kapanen and a 3rd for retaining on Eller, Washington gets a 4th to unload Eller without retention, Pittsburgh gets a new bottom 6 center. Similar to how Detroit retained between CBJ and Tampa Bay for Savard.
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Eller, Lars ($1,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Arizona retains
WSH
  1. 2024 4th round pick (PIT)
2.
PIT
ARI
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$76,725,592$0$0$5,774,408
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$665,000$665,000
C
UFA - 1
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$3,125,000$3,125,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 3
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1

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Dec. 22, 2022 at 2:01 p.m.
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they can make the cap work to keep him this year, so caps need more than a 4th to move eller. 3rd at least for a western team, 2nd to PIT, NYR, or NYI, or NJD
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Dec. 22, 2022 at 2:02 p.m.
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I am genuinely curious, has Kapanen been so bad as to needing a 3rd round pick to dump his cap?
Dec. 22, 2022 at 2:06 p.m.
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they can make the cap work to keep him this year, so caps need more than a 4th to move eller. 3rd at least for a western team, 2nd to PIT, NYR, or NYI, or NJD


When you're a team that is being forced to be cap compliant mid-season, you have NO leverage. WSH is in no position demand much of anything.

That said, I'd stay away. I don't know that Eller is much better than Carter at this point. Plus, WSH needs to free up cap space, so retaining doesn't make much sense for them.
Dec. 22, 2022 at 2:07 p.m.
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I am genuinely curious, has Kapanen been so bad as to needing a 3rd round pick to dump his cap?


Terrible. But Hextall has also been adamant that he's not adding incentive to take his players. Not sure if he'll change his tune to correct his error, but he's lived up to pretty much everything he's said.
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Dec. 22, 2022 at 2:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Mitch9412
I am genuinely curious, has Kapanen been so bad as to needing a 3rd round pick to dump his cap?


short answer is no.... i doubt it... but he doesn't have nearly the value he did when we acquired him and sent a B prospect and a 1st to acquire him...

for the first several games he's been invisible.....
last few weeks he is surprisingly just below a point-per-game...
but i suspect if he's moved it's just as the "salary player with minimal value" in a bigger move... he shows flashes for sure...
personally i'd give him another month or 10 games... if he disappears again then i'd look to move him but he has shown improvement lately...
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Dec. 22, 2022 at 2:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
When you're a team that is being forced to be cap compliant mid-season, you have NO leverage. WSH is in no position demand much of anything.

That said, I'd stay away. I don't know that Eller is much better than Carter at this point. Plus, WSH needs to free up cap space, so retaining doesn't make much sense for them.


did you not read my post lol. they are not being "forced" to be cap compliant this season -- no trades need to be made and no one needs to be sent through waivers that they wouldn't care too much about losing, even if by some miracle every single guy becomes healthy.
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Dec. 22, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
short answer is no.... i doubt it... but he doesn't have nearly the value he did when we acquired him and sent a B prospect and a 1st to acquire him...

for the first several games he's been invisible.....
last few weeks he is surprisingly just below a point-per-game...
but i suspect if he's moved it's just as the "salary player with minimal value" in a bigger move... he shows flashes for sure...
personally i'd give him another month or 10 games... if he disappears again then i'd look to move him but he has shown improvement lately...


Quoting: Pens3lieve
short answer is no.... i doubt it... but he doesn't have nearly the value he did when we acquired him and sent a B prospect and a 1st to acquire him...

for the first several games he's been invisible.....
last few weeks he is surprisingly just below a point-per-game...
but i suspect if he's moved it's just as the "salary player with minimal value" in a bigger move... he shows flashes for sure...
personally i'd give him another month or 10 games... if he disappears again then i'd look to move him but he has shown improvement lately...


Thanks guys! I don't watch many pens games and thought a 3rd to dump that player who is relatively young and has shown those flashes might have been a bit much
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Dec. 22, 2022 at 2:21 p.m.
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Quoting: qc14
they can make the cap work to keep him this year, so caps need more than a 4th to move eller. 3rd at least for a western team, 2nd to PIT, NYR, or NYI, or NJD


I have seen multiple people trading him away for a 4th or less because of the cap problems. Also, the point of using Arizona as a proxy is so that Washington doesn't know and doesn't overcharge. The Pens did this years ago to get Streit out of philly when philly declined to trade him to Pittsburgh.
Dec. 22, 2022 at 2:21 p.m.
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Thanks guys! I don't watch many pens games and thought a 3rd to dump that player who is relatively young and has shown those flashes might have been a bit much


It's more of a combo of dumping Kap and getting Arizona to retain on Eller.
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Dec. 22, 2022 at 2:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
When you're a team that is being forced to be cap compliant mid-season, you have NO leverage. WSH is in no position demand much of anything.

That said, I'd stay away. I don't know that Eller is much better than Carter at this point. Plus, WSH needs to free up cap space, so retaining doesn't make much sense for them.


Eller is definite upgrade to Carter at this point. He's still strong on the puck and physical enough in his 200ft game that he makes an impact on O and D. Carter has been struggling in that role as a center, so the move to wing should help ease him out of those burdens. Also, as I said above Arizona is actually the team retaining, not Washington.
Dec. 22, 2022 at 3:33 p.m.
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Quoting: qc14
did you not read my post lol. they are not being "forced" to be cap compliant this season -- no trades need to be made and no one needs to be sent through waivers that they wouldn't care too much about losing, even if by some miracle every single guy becomes healthy.


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I have seen multiple people trading him away for a 4th or less because of the cap problems. Also, the point of using Arizona as a proxy is so that Washington doesn't know and doesn't overcharge. The Pens did this years ago to get Streit out of philly when philly declined to trade him to Pittsburgh.


Quoting: brgh4life
Eller is definite upgrade to Carter at this point. He's still strong on the puck and physical enough in his 200ft game that he makes an impact on O and D. Carter has been struggling in that role as a center, so the move to wing should help ease him out of those burdens. Also, as I said above Arizona is actually the team retaining, not Washington.


Lolol I am cracking up....Just want to re-emphasize @qc14 post....

Third time is a charm maybe?

The caps do not need to trade Eller to remain cap compliant. They just need to send guys down...
Dec. 22, 2022 at 5:04 p.m.
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Lolol I am cracking up....Just want to re-emphasize qc14 post....

Third time is a charm maybe?

The caps do not need to trade Eller to remain cap compliant. They just need to send guys down...


What are you even talking about? At no point did I say they have to trade him to be cap compliant. I said I saw a bunch of Caps fans talking about trading him so I tried to think of a way to get him through a proxy team.
 
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