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Created by: The_Rocket

Team: 2024-25 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 22, 2022

Published: Dec. 22, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Åman, Nils	1	$975,000
Bear, Ethan	2	$2,500,000
Höglander, Nils	1	$1,500,000
Dermott, Travis	1	$1,500,000
Karlsson, Linus	1	$900,000
Pettersson, Elias	8	$10,500,000
Silovs, Arturs	2	$1,050,000
Podkolzin, Vasily	2	$2,000,000
Brisebois, Guillaume	2	$800,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Burroughs, Kyle	1	$800,000
Kuzmenko, Andrei	5	$5,000,000
Schenn, Luke	1	$2,500,000
Joshua, Dakota	1	$1,100,000
Gavrikov, Vladislav	4	$5,500,000
Larkin, Dylan	7	$9,150,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Smith, Will		3	$950,000

Trades

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$87,500,000	$85,028,889	$0	$0	$2,471,111

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kuzmenko, Andrei $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Pettersson, Elias $10,500,000$10,500,000 C, LW UFA - 8	Mikheyev, Ilya $4,750,000$4,750,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2
Miller, J.T. $8,000,000$8,000,000 C, LW, RW NMC UFA - 6	Larkin, Dylan $9,150,000$9,150,000 C UFA - 7	Garland, Conor $4,950,000$4,950,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Höglander, Nils $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Smith, Will $950,000$950,000	Podkolzin, Vasily $2,000,000$2,000,000 RW, LW RFA - 2
Joshua, Dakota $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW UFA	Åman, Nils $975,000$975,000 C RFA - 2	Lazar, Curtis $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Quinn $7,850,000$7,850,000 LD UFA - 3	Schenn, Luke $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Demko, Thatcher $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 2
Provorov, Ivan $4,725,000$4,725,000 LD UFA - 1	Gavrikov, Vladislav $5,500,000$5,500,000 LD UFA - 1	Silovs, Arturs $1,050,000$1,050,000 G RFA
Dermott, Travis $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD/RD UFA	Bear, Ethan $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Brisebois, Guillaume $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1		Poolman, Tucker $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1
Karlsson, Linus $900,000$900,000 RW RFA
Burroughs, Kyle $800,000$800,000 LD/RD UFA - 2

Dec. 22, 2022 at 3:55 p.m.

IcetoMeetYou33

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I'd feel sorry for Demko

Dec. 22, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.

The_Rocket

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Quoting: IcetoMeetYou33

I'd feel sorry for Demko

Why’s that?

Dec. 22, 2022 at 3:59 p.m.

Canucks33

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No to an OEL buyout

Dec. 22, 2022 at 4:00 p.m.

The_Rocket

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Quoting: Canucks33

No to an OEL buyout

It’s the only man. I’m sorry to be the one to break it to you

Dec. 22, 2022 at 4:00 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Seeing as Larkin and kuzmenko are ufas in 23-24 you'd definitely be over the cap that year

Dec. 22, 2022 at 4:01 p.m.

The_Rocket

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Seeing as Larkin and kuzmenko are ufas in 23-24 so you'd definitely be over the cap that year

Nope. Easily make it work that season

Dec. 22, 2022 at 4:06 p.m.

Canucks33

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Quoting: The_Rocket

It’s the only man. I’m sorry to be the one to break it to you

It's really not. If the Canucks were primed for a Cup run in the next 2-3 years then sure, but not now. It's not worth essentially paying Provorov (or whoever replaces OEL) an extra 2M-4M on top of their cap hit to take the same spot in the lineup. Maybe down the line its a better option but not now.

Dec. 22, 2022 at 4:12 p.m.

The_Rocket

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Quoting: Canucks33

I suppose instead of trading Boeser for provorov you could simply cap dump Boeser and keep OEL and it still works. Just is a worse team is all

Dec. 22, 2022 at 4:22 p.m.

Roperttos

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Philly will much rather trade Provorov for futures than for Boeser

Dec. 22, 2022 at 4:36 p.m.

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Quoting: The_Rocket

I suppose instead of trading Boeser for provorov you could simply cap dump Boeser and keep OEL and it still works. Just is a worse team is all

It's the much more patient approach rather than committing to dead cap during non-contending years. PHI doesn't make that trade anyway.

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Dec. 22, 2022 at 4:38 p.m.

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The_Rocket

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Quoting: Canucks33

It's the much more patient approach rather than committing to dead cap during non-contending years. PHI doesn't make that trade anyway.

Let’s say you could trade Boeser for a 2nd then with no cap coming back. How does that look for this team? Also assumes we pick too 10 this year

Dec. 22, 2022 at 4:41 p.m.

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Canucks33

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Quoting: The_Rocket

Let’s say you could trade Boeser for a 2nd then with no cap coming back. How does that look for this team? Also assumes we pick too 10 this year

That's the kind of trade that Canucks are accepting they'll have to make apparently. The cap space is what's valuable, it depends on what we do with that.

Dec. 22, 2022 at 4:54 p.m.

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Xertalz

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No one's touching Boeser with the way he's been playing, Flyers certainly wouldn't move Provorov for him

Dec. 22, 2022 at 5:45 p.m.

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Luguber

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Yeah I don't think you'll get Provorov for just Boeser straight up.
That would be like trading Quinn Hughes for Joel Farabee.

Dec. 22, 2022 at 6:18 p.m.

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The_Rocket

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Quoting: Luguber

Yeah I don't think you'll get Provorov for just Boeser straight up.
That would be like trading Quinn Hughes for Joel Farabee.

That would be nothing like trading Quinn Hughes for farabee

Dec. 22, 2022 at 8:15 p.m.

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CM_Insane

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Quoting: The_Rocket

It’s the only man. I’m sorry to be the one to break it to you

It isn't it would be more advisable to retain 2-3m then trade him and have him on the books for another 8 years.

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Dec. 23, 2022 at 3:29 a.m.

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Luguber

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Quoting: The_Rocket

That would be nothing like trading Quinn Hughes for farabee

Well kind of, Hughes and Farabee are similar in age and contract length, just as Provorov/Boeser are.
Value wise, for their respective team that is, I think Provorov comes fairly close to Hughes. Farabee however might be more valued by the Flyers than what Boeser are by the Canucks.
So actually this is almost an even more unbalanced trade than what Hughes for Farabee would be

I'm certainly missing something though, don't have a complete picture of the advanced stats and so forth.

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