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Can Dubois be had

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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 4, 2023
Published: Jan. 4, 2023
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Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,750,000
8$7,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$4,500,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Farrell, Sean [Reserve List]
  3. Harris, Jordan [RFA Rights]
  4. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2.
MTL
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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21$84,500,000$73,656,666$1,170,000$4,165,000$10,843,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
UFA - 8
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$885,000$885,000 (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
C
RFA - 3
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$835,000$835,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
UFA - 4
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3

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Jan. 4, 2023 at 12:05 p.m.
#1
Pistol Pete
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i wouldn't trade for him he will be yours in 2 years via free agency.
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
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I agree with @Zmach

Just wait until FA for him where he will be free
Jan. 4, 2023 at 12:12 p.m.
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Not worth the cost of acquisition.
We don't benefit from trading for him without an extension in place and we don't need him before he hits free agency.
Either we win him in free agency because we still have that need, or somebody else takes that role before he becomes available. No need to rush out and make a big trade.
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.
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Dubois might be able to be had, but it won't be for an offer that isn't competitive with the others.

The first is a good start, but a collection of C/D prospects and a 2 years of a highly overpaid 4th liner doesn't add any value. This offer is beaten quite easily by many, many teams.
Jan. 4, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.
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thats easily double what i would be willing to trade for Dubois. Theres no reason to make this deal for the habs.
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 12:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Dubois might be able to be had, but it won't be for an offer that isn't competitive with the others.

The first is a good start, but a collection of C/D prospects and a 2 years of a highly overpaid 4th liner doesn't add any value. This offer is beaten quite easily by many, many teams.


You make me laugh every time you speak... 4th liner?! oh right sure so if dubois is no longer on the jets, Dvorak would be playing behind Kevin Stenlund and David Gustafsson. Makes sense
Jan. 4, 2023 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: BigBadBurke
You make me laugh every time you speak... 4th liner?! oh right sure so if dubois is no longer on the jets, Dvorak would be playing behind Kevin Stenlund and David Gustafsson. Makes sense


You ever had a conversation with a brick wall? Similar outcomes from my experience...
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.
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Quoting: BigBadBurke
You make me laugh every time you speak... 4th liner?! oh right sure so if dubois is no longer on the jets, Dvorak would be playing behind Kevin Stenlund and David Gustafsson. Makes sense


Quoting: Just_A_Guess
You ever had a conversation with a brick wall? Similar outcomes from my experience...


Same person told me Habs would have to add to the first overall pick if they wanted PLD last summer. Always a fun time
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 1:42 p.m.
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Same person told me Habs would have to add to the first overall pick if they wanted PLD last summer. Always a fun time


You'd have to pay him to take a 1st round pick from us for free...
Jan. 4, 2023 at 2:49 p.m.
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Quoting: BigBadBurke
You make me laugh every time you speak... 4th liner?! oh right sure so if dubois is no longer on the jets, Dvorak would be playing behind Kevin Stenlund and David Gustafsson. Makes sense


Quoting: Subbanator7667
Same person told me Habs would have to add to the first overall pick if they wanted PLD last summer. Always a fun time


Quoting: Just_A_Guess
You ever had a conversation with a brick wall? Similar outcomes from my experience...


Just a full-on Winnipeg Homer and it's borderline pathetic because he's serious. TJ Brodie apparently is an overpaid, unneeded defender but hey Nate Schmidt is needed and is so good! Kerfoot is worthless and mediocre, but hey don't try to pry Jansen Harkins away from us!
Jan. 4, 2023 at 2:53 p.m.
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Quoting: DarcyTucker
Just a full-on Winnipeg Homer and it's borderline pathetic because he's serious. TJ Brodie apparently is an overpaid, unneeded defender but hey Nate Schmidt is needed and is so good! Kerfoot is worthless and mediocre, but hey don't try to pry Jansen Harkins away from us!


Unless you don a Jets jersey, basically overpaid and worthless...
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.
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What about FLA 1st/Roy and DV for salary purposes? I know that you guys are good for cap space next year, but he would be expensive as a 3C behind Suzuki and PLD and we could use him as a placeholder on the Jets till we figure what the hell we are doing with Scheif and Helly.
Jan. 5, 2023 at 7:39 a.m.
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Put yourself in the shoes of every other GM in the league outside WIN & MTL.

Word going around is that PLD wants to play in MTL. If you’re a GM in the league, acquiring PLD is only a rental since he’ll be UFA in the summer of ‘24. No GM in the league is going to make a significant offer for PLD.

You can acquire 2 late 1st rd picks for him, lose him for nothing via UFA, or acquire 4 assets for him.

The bodies in the deal are support staff, I totally agree with that.

Dvorak is a 3C, 30-40 pts/yr, good on faceoffs. He has “some” value.

Harris is an all around rookie dman who will likely be a 2LD. He has more value than Dvorak.

Farrell is an offensive C with a high ceiling. He has value.

The biggest piece in this deal is the draft pick. It’s currently a top10 pick in a deep draft. WIN will never get an offer that includes that high of a pick for PLD.

For those who say I’m overpaying… we have the depth to make such a move (on defence), we need to shed salary to fit him on the roster, and it sends a message to the league that this rebuild is going to the next level. It could make UFAs consider MTL.
 
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