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Created by: arafay
Team: 2022-23 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 1, 2023
Published: Jan. 4, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
cap won't really be an issue with the jets current injury woes and no one on LTIR. The jets have probably amassed quite a bit of cap space by now.
Trades
WPG
  1. Toews, Jonathan ($5,250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
2nd becomes a 2023 1st if the jets make it to the WCF
CHI
  1. Stanley, Logan
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (WPG)
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (WPG)
Additional Details:
same as copp trade
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$82,500,000$84,371,191$0$2,262,500-$1,871,191
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,166,667$2,166,667
RW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,166,667$6,166,667
G
UFA - 2
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$900,000$900,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$5,950,000$5,950,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LD
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1

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Jan. 4, 2023 at 4:51 p.m.
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Why are you putting the guy with the best face off percentage in the league at wing?
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 4:55 p.m.
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Ouch, hopefully Chevy doesn't consider this. I agree with you on a lot of stuff, but not this. Toews isn't worth what you have offered here at that salary, so upping the pick to a first should definitely be out.

I really wish Chicago would trade Toews elsewhere so people could get over this "send him home" stuff.
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 5:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Ouch, hopefully Chevy doesn't consider this. I agree with you on a lot of stuff, but not this. Toews isn't worth what you have offered here at that salary, so upping the pick to a first should definitely be out.

I really wish Chicago would trade Toews elsewhere so people could get over this "send him home" stuff.


Well if the Jets make the WCF and Toews plays a big role, I'm pretty sure the Jets would be happy upgrading the (2)nds to the 2023 1st.

Toews is worth (2) 2nds and a late 1st based on performance. Stanley isn't necessary.

Toews has a house out there and spends the offseason there, so it's the most obvious place Toews probably waives for. Don't be shocked if the Jets make a move to acquire him as such.
Jan. 4, 2023 at 5:21 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Well if the Jets make the WCF and Toews plays a big role, I'm pretty sure the Jets would be happy upgrading the (2)nds to the 2023 1st.

Toews is worth (2) 2nds and a late 1st based on performance. Stanley isn't necessary.

Toews has a house out there and spends the offseason there, so it's the most obvious place Toews probably waives for. Don't be shocked if the Jets make a move to acquire him as such.


That's the thing, if the Jets get to the WCF, it won't be because of Toews. He'd be a very minor bit player. If the Jets were to make it there it won't be in any way due to Toews. He just isn't what he was anymore and isn't worth close to that $5.25 mil.
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 5:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
That's the thing, if the Jets get to the WCF, it won't be because of Toews. He'd be a very minor bit player. If the Jets were to make it there it won't be in any way due to Toews. He just isn't what he was anymore and isn't worth close to that $5.25 mil.


That's just not true that "it won't be in any way due to Toews" or "he'd be a very minor bit player". Toews is still a strong possession two way player and top in the league at the dot. If you don't think Toews would be a big part of getting teams through the playoffs, then I'd argue over the 1/2 the players in the NHL playing forward don't have a big part in playoff hockey which is also not true. To suggest adding Toews to the top 9 doesn't help the Jets a fair amount is a hard argument to support regardless if he isn't the player he was 5 years ago which was a very high bar back then; he's still better then the average forward.

Why do you care about $5.25M...you do understand cap hits are prorated on games played, so when a player is traded with 50% retained at the TDL it is actually much less then half of their original cap hit due to proration. Further, the vast majority of his salary is paid already, so the Jets aren't taking on $5.25 in cap or real dollars.
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 5:36 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
That's just not true that "it won't be in any way due to Toews" or "he'd be a very minor bit player". Toews is still a strong possession two way player and top in the league at the dot. If you don't think Toews would be a big part of getting teams through the playoffs, then I'd argue over the 1/2 the players in the NHL playing forward don't have a big part in playoff hockey which is also not true. To suggest adding Toews to the top 9 doesn't help the Jets a fair amount is a hard argument to support regardless if he isn't the player he was 5 years ago which was a very high bar back then; he's still better then the average forward.

Why do you care about $5.25M...you do understand cap hits are prorated on games played, so when a player is traded with 50% retained at the TDL it is actually much less then half of their original cap hit due to proration. Further, the vast majority of his salary is paid already, so the Jets aren't taking on $5.25 in cap or real dollars.


Fair point in the salary other than Toews would still use up any cap space that the Jets may have to go after players that actually do something for them and that they may need at the TDL.

Right now, Toews does nothing for the Jets and I can't see that changing by the TDL. So, the Jets should just not risk 1sts or 2nds in a deep draft for a player that is a shell of his former self and isn't needed.

If everyone wants the feel good story, he can sign with the Jets in the off season for a mil or two and go on his goodbye tour. Most Jet fans just have no interest in him now or at the TDL. Sorry. But I'm sure you'll be able to move him somewhere.
Jan. 4, 2023 at 5:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Fair point in the salary other than Toews would still use up any cap space that the Jets may have to go after players that actually do something for them and that they may need at the TDL.

Right now, Toews does nothing for the Jets and I can't see that changing by the TDL. So, the Jets should just not risk 1sts or 2nds in a deep draft for a player that is a shell of his former self and isn't needed.

If everyone wants the feel good story, he can sign with the Jets in the off season for a mil or two and go on his goodbye tour. Most Jet fans just have no interest in him now or at the TDL. Sorry. But I'm sure you'll be able to move him somewhere.


Probably a good thing you and I aren't making the decisions, but I can tell you objectively he is definitely worth more then $1M or $2M...he's realistically a $3.5M to $4M player right now. I agree, the Jets are currently pretty strong down the middle if Lowry continues to play as good in the 2nd half as he has in the first half of the season. If he reverts back to the Lowry we all know, then Toews all the sudden would be much more attractive...hindsight is always 20/20
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Jan. 4, 2023 at 6:09 p.m.
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Probably a good thing you and I aren't making the decisions, but I can tell you objectively he is definitely worth more then $1M or $2M...he's realistically a $3.5M to $4M player right now. I agree, the Jets are currently pretty strong down the middle if Lowry continues to play as good in the 2nd half as he has in the first half of the season. If he reverts back to the Lowry we all know, then Toews all the sudden would be much more attractive...hindsight is always 20/20


I'm equally glad that you and some Jet fans aren't in charge either. You can sugar coat it all you want, but Toews simply isn't worth the ask. The Jets don't owe Chicago anything extra for the player Toews once was. He's not in his mid 20s anymore.

That's cool if he gets more money elsewhere next season, he's a good guy and deserves it. It just means that he isn't all that interested in playing at home, which is fine.
Jan. 4, 2023 at 10:53 p.m.
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The 2nd most certainly does NOT become a 2023 1st. Maybe a 3rd rounder at most for Toews and only if there are no true top 6 players to be had. If he really wants to play at home he can sign in the offseason on a team-friendly contract. He's not who WPG needs right now.
Jan. 5, 2023 at 12:00 a.m.
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Why are you putting the guy with the best face off percentage in the league at wing?


They are both strong on faceoffs. I was initially thinking of putting him with scheifele or Dubois, but honestly, they guys ahead will produce more.

Maybe run:
Teows-scheifele-ehlers (teows and scheifele can alternate based on strong sides)
Connor-Dubois-perfetti
Barron-lowry-wheeler
Maenalenen-gus-apples

But teows wasn’t primarily for faceoffs. More to give versatility and depth. The jets have no one to step up in case dubios or schiefele (or both) go down as lowry is very limited in offence.
Jan. 5, 2023 at 12:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Ouch, hopefully Chevy doesn't consider this. I agree with you on a lot of stuff, but not this. Toews isn't worth what you have offered here at that salary, so upping the pick to a first should definitely be out.

I really wish Chicago would trade Toews elsewhere so people could get over this "send him home" stuff.


I think the need for a guy like teows is really underrated for the jets. What happens if scheifele or Dubois (or both) go down with an injury in the playoffs. What if one of our top 6 gets hurt. Who steps up. Right now, the jets bottom 6 lacks the talent to fulfill the needs even at replacement level. With teows bringing leadership and all that above, I think he’s worth it.
Jan. 5, 2023 at 12:14 a.m.
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I think the need for a guy like teows is really underrated for the jets. What happens if scheifele or Dubois (or both) go down with an injury in the playoffs. What if one of our top 6 gets hurt. Who steps up. Right now, the jets bottom 6 lacks the talent to fulfill the needs even at replacement level. With teows bringing leadership and all that above, I think he’s worth it.


We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. If one of those two go down, the Jets are in real trouble, just as any team would be. Toews doesn't change that.

Rental deals at the TDL almost never work and moving that much for a now injury prone Toews is really a bad bet. I'd rather the Jets keep the premium assets and go after smaller, more cost efficient players to hello the bottom six.
Jan. 5, 2023 at 2:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. If one of those two go down, the Jets are in real trouble, just as any team would be. Toews doesn't change that.

Rental deals at the TDL almost never work and moving that much for a now injury prone Toews is really a bad bet. I'd rather the Jets keep the premium assets and go after smaller, more cost efficient players to hello the bottom six.


Injury prone? You absolutely lost me at that one! He had covid long haul and got a concussion...first one in years....last year which happens to a lot of hockey players. Doesn't make him injury prone
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