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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #8: Vote for Jesper Bratt

Jan. 8, 2023 at 1:30 a.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
TML:
Hyman?_Barrie?_Campbell?_Ceci?

Just such a flawed club - painful to watch. At least tonight it was COL (class club). The SEA loss was brutal...

Maybe they are running a PITT circa 2015-17 playbook? The Pens had no business repeating (major IR to personnel, esp. D-Men) BUT did win because they said so (and they got playoff upsets elsewhere)!


It’s utterly ridiculous they’ve missed the playoffs 3 times with McDavid and Draisaitl on the roster and are in serious trouble with possible missing out this year.
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Jan. 8, 2023 at 9:28 a.m.
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Umm… what?
Jan. 8, 2023 at 10:12 a.m.
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It’s utterly ridiculous they’ve missed the playoffs 3 times with McDavid and Draisaitl on the roster and are in serious trouble with possible missing out this year.


I hope that Drai and McDavid end up walking for nothing when their contracts are out without ever winning a cup with the Oilers almost as much as I hope the same to happen the Leafs with Matthews.
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Jan. 8, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
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I hope that Drai and McDavid end up walking for nothing when their contracts are out without ever winning a cup with the Oilers almost as much as I hope the same to happen the Leafs with Matthews.



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Jan. 8, 2023 at 11:03 a.m.
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Nightmare fuel
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Jan. 8, 2023 at 3:22 p.m.
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Jordan Binnington is the h best player in the NHL?
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Jan. 8, 2023 at 3:55 p.m.
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My All Star Votes:
Metro: Fox, Panarin, Sorokin
Atlantic: Dahlin, Pasta, Vasi
Central: Kyle Connor, Hellebuyck, Rantanen
Pacific: Horvat, Draisaitl, Skinner
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Jan. 8, 2023 at 4:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Sharkie69
My All Star Votes:
Metro: Fox, Panarin, Sorokin
Atlantic: Dahlin, Pasta, Vasi
Central: Kyle Connor, Hellebuyck, Rantanen
Pacific: Horvat, Draisaitl, Skinner


These were my choices
:
Metro: Konecny, Ristolainen, Hart
Atlantic: Giroux, Simmonds, Brian Elliot
Central: Ghostibehere, Jack Johnson, Vejmelka
Pacific: Daniel Sprong, Shane Wright, Martin Jones

and before you say bias...
Stop and realize I watch the Philadephia Flyers willingly
Jan. 8, 2023 at 4:09 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
These were my choices
:
Metro: Konecny, Ristolainen, Hart
Atlantic: Giroux, Simmonds, Brian Elliot
Central: Ghostibehere, Jack Johnson, Vejmelka
Pacific: Daniel Sprong, Shane Wright, Martin Jones

and before you say bias...
Stop and realize I watch the Philadephia Flyers willingly


Forgot Josh Anderson
Jan. 8, 2023 at 4:11 p.m.
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Forgot Josh Anderson


Josh Anderson is busy getting traded for Firsts on CapFriendly. always at the airport
Jan. 8, 2023 at 4:32 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
These were my choices
:
Metro: Konecny, Ristolainen, Hart
Atlantic: Giroux, Simmonds, Brian Elliot
Central: Ghostibehere, Jack Johnson, Vejmelka
Pacific: Daniel Sprong, Shane Wright, Martin Jones

and before you say bias...
Stop and realize I watch the Philadephia Flyers willingly


When was Sprong on the Flyers?
Jan. 8, 2023 at 4:34 p.m.
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When was Sprong on the Flyers?


he wasnt he's just a legend, a few of these werent on the flyers most were tho
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Jan. 8, 2023 at 4:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Sharkie69
My All Star Votes:
Metro: Fox, Panarin, Sorokin
Atlantic: Dahlin, Pasta, Vasi
Central: Kyle Connor, Hellebuyck, Rantanen
Pacific: Horvat, Draisaitl, Skinner


I tried not to be biased.
I did.
Fox, Bratt, Sorokin
Dahlin, Caufield, Point
Rantanen, Josi, Hellbcyuk
Horvat, Draisaitl, Copley
Jan. 8, 2023 at 5:02 p.m.
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backy has been pain free for the first time in 7 seasons. thats nuts
Jan. 8, 2023 at 5:29 p.m.
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Martin Necas needs to be in the all star game or else I’m not watching
Jan. 8, 2023 at 5:30 p.m.
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I tried not to be biased.
I did.
Fox, Bratt, Sorokin
Dahlin, Caufield, Point
Rantanen, Josi, Hellbcyuk
Horvat, Draisaitl, Copley


One of these is not like the others

You guessed it! Caufield
Jan. 8, 2023 at 5:35 p.m.
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Want to see a meme

Forsberg last year had 42 goals and assists in 69 gp

The Hockey Gods are real this is a sign
Jan. 8, 2023 at 5:41 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
he wasnt he's just a legend, a few of these werent on the flyers most were tho


my favorite player. played against boys as a toddler
Jan. 8, 2023 at 5:42 p.m.
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Lol the Canucks lost to David Rittch
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Jan. 8, 2023 at 5:43 p.m.
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Oh boy Elias Pettersson was AWFUL today. Hopefully he is ready for the next game
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Jan. 8, 2023 at 5:44 p.m.
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dowd strome sorokin
zaitsev craig smith hellberg
ryan suter kassian rittich
rnh vlasic grubauer
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Jan. 8, 2023 at 6:03 p.m.
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If McCann was playing with AM and MM he would have got a Bratt deal 100% as if he got 50 points playing with guys like Schwartz, Eberle, and Gourde with the Dynamic duo of Matthews and Marner on their record breaking season 70 + points and 30 goals would have most likely happened and there was no way he would have taken 4mill. Bratt when he got his deal had 73 points and got 5.85mill x 1 year. As if we look at Bunting he got 63 points playing with the duo. McCann who is better easily would have done better than that and would have reached 70+ points as mentioned above.

But in general as mentioned countless times there was no way they could afford him as even in your scenario If Leafs didnt have Kerfoot and Jarnkrok and kept him they wouldnt have had a legal roster as when Muzzin was there we only could fit 20 guys. And then sure we could go get another 800k guy but they dont do jack so instead of 2 guys scoring it would have been 1. As when u got 2 players doing work vs one it balances the team and as we see Kerfoot provides the defense, Jarnkrok is now providing the offense and working well with JT and Marner.

So either way it was just not doable with dubas's current plan especially at the ceiling McCann would have got with the duo. Sure we could have got a 3rd for the rights or he would have been OS'd but with how things were structured here a guy like him would have got his points and been gone in 2023. Only sure way they would be able to keep him is if Dubas went k Nylander your gone or dumped Muzzin. As honestly we were already gambling with a 20man team. Having a more expensive guy would have made Pridham's brain explode.


He got 5x5 taking up all his prime years despite being on about 30 goal pace two years in a row. Thinking that he would have gotten 5.45 mill on a 1 year deal is absurd. Even if he put up 70 points he wasn’t getting more than 5 mill on a 1 year deal.

Mccann is a top line winger, acting like the leafs couldn’t have done anything when they just shelled out 4 years for a 31 year old Jarnkrok just isn’t true. Dubas player evaluation was wrong. You do whatever you can to retain a guy like mccann.

It’s like isles fans saying the isles were forced to move Devon Toews because of the cap. That’s just not true. They didn’t value him enough to make the necessary moves to retain him. Big difference
Jan. 8, 2023 at 6:28 p.m.
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He got 5x5 taking up all his prime years despite being on about 30 goal pace two years in a row. Thinking that he would have gotten 5.45 mill on a 1 year deal is absurd. Even if he put up 70 points he wasn’t getting more than 5 mill on a 1 year deal.

Mccann is a top line winger, acting like the leafs couldn’t have done anything when they just shelled out 4 years for a 31 year old Jarnkrok just isn’t true. Dubas player evaluation was wrong. You do whatever you can to retain a guy like mccann.

It’s like isles fans saying the isles were forced to move Devon Toews because of the cap. That’s just not true. They didn’t value him enough to make the necessary moves to retain him. Big difference


Remember McCann would have been on Matthews and Marner's wing

Bratt had 26 goals and 45 assists for 73 points resulting in a 5.45mill x 1 year.

If McCann stayed in Toronto and was playing with Matthews and Marner he would have pushed or achieved 70+ points. When he was in SEA he had 50 points in 74 games which was one of the reasons he signs for 5mill x 5 years. With 70+ points and being an RFA a Bratt deal was a real possibility for McCann should he want to stay as lets say after playing with Matthews and Marner McCann has 30 goals and 45 assists. U really think hes going sure I will sign 5mill x 5 years no. He will either go one year bridge or be traded. Now sure we could have traded the rights but as mentioned before it would have been a rental basis and while we could have got a pick around the 2nd round range.

So in the end it was just not do able. Unless Dubas decided the big 4 werent the guys then there was no real path to keeping him without weakening another area. Either way they are 3rd in the NHL without him so they are good
Jan. 8, 2023 at 6:40 p.m.
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I can already predict the next picture thats gonna pop up at some point in retaliation

We all know what its gonna be to lul
Jan. 8, 2023 at 7:20 p.m.
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Lol the Canucks lost to David Rittch


Apparently the Jets fixed him as before today he has a 0.910SV
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