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Toews at 75 percent retention

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 6, 2023
Published: Jan. 6, 2023
Team: 2022-23 Minnesota Wild
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
teows, jonathon1$3,937,500
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. Toews, Jonathan ($5,250,000 retained)
CHI
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (MIN)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (MIN)
2.
MIN
    %25 retention
    MTL
    1. Toews, Jonathan
    2. 2024 5th round pick (MIN)
    Buyouts
    • Zach Parise: $6,371,794
    • Ryan Suter: $6,371,794
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Ryan O'Reilly: $1,875,000 (25%)
    • Dmitry Orlov: $1,275,000 (25%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
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    2025
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$82,500,000$85,144,421$0$682,500-$2,644,421
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    Kaprizov, Kirill
    $9,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 4
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    Eriksson Ek, Joel
    $5,250,000
    C
    UFA - 7
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    Zuccarello, Mats
    $6,000,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
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    Greenway, Jordan
    $3,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    teows, jonathon
    $3,937,500
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    Foligno, Marcus
    $3,100,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
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    Dewar, Connor
    $800,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 2
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    Hartman, Ryan
    $1,700,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
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    Reaves, Ryan
    $1,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
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    Shaw, Mason
    $750,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
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    Gaudreau, Frédérick
    $1,200,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
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    Boldy, Matthew
    $880,833
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
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    Steel, Sam
    $825,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
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    Duhaime, Brandon
    $750,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Brodin, Jonas
    $6,000,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    Spurgeon, Jared
    $7,575,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    Fleury, Marc-André
    $3,500,000
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    NMC
    UFA - 2
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    Middleton, Jacob
    $2,450,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
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    Dumba, Matt
    $6,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Gustavsson, Filip
    $787,500
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    Goligoski, Alex
    $2,000,000
    LD/RD
    NMC
    UFA - 2
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    Addison, Calen
    $795,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
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    Merrill, Jon
    $1,200,000
    LD
    UFA - 3

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    Jan. 6 at 6:48 p.m.
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    I could see it being similar to the MAF trade with conditions to a 1st. Centers get more trade value than goalies so I'd imagine those conditions would be easier than MAF's. Still the games played condition just because if Toews gets hurt...he didnt do much to help, but probably getting past the 1st round too.
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    Jan. 6 at 7:00 p.m.
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    You think JT at 75% retention is onyl going to cost a NEXT YEAR 2nd 4th and 5th?!?!?!
    Jan. 6 at 7:08 p.m.
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    75% retention on Jonathan Toews is going to cost a hell of a lot more than a 2nd 4th and 5th round pick.
    Jan. 6 at 7:14 p.m.
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    if Habs are to retain 25% we would like Broc Faber instead of a late pick
    Jan. 6 at 9:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: habitantlecolon
    if Habs are to retain 25% we would like Broc Faber instead of a late pick


    You're funny.
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    Jan. 6 at 10:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: Digitalbooya06
    You're funny.


    I know but we would like active player for retention!
    Jan. 7 at 10:08 a.m.
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    Quoting: habitantlecolon
    I know but we would like active player for retention!


    Minnesota can afford $14.83M at the deadline. No retention is needed at all!
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    Jan. 7 at 3:02 p.m.
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    Edited Jan. 7 at 3:07 p.m.
    Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
    75% retention on Jonathan Toews is going to cost a hell of a lot more than a 2nd 4th and 5th round pick.

    Quoting: Hckeydude123
    You think JT at 75% retention is onyl going to cost a NEXT YEAR 2nd 4th and 5th?!?!?!


    Most likely but neither of these teams are on my radar so I wouldn't know which cheap young player or top prospect to add.... And when ACGMs include players you get more trolling comments, so I kept it simple.

    Also agree with the first comment, condition would be added to the trade for an upgrade to a higher pick.

    Also the funny thing is, the Hawks have to retain salary on both Toews and Kane so they can stay above the cap floor, so it's not about getting higher assets.

    Unless the Hawks also buy bad contracts in seperate deals to stay above the floor.
    Jan. 7 at 3:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Digitalbooya06
    Minnesota can afford $14.83M at the deadline. No retention is needed at all!


    How ?
    Jan. 7 at 4:41 p.m.
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    Edited Jan. 7 at 4:53 p.m.
    Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
    How ?


    Do you not know how cap space works? Or how it accrues over the course of a season?

    Provided a team doesn't have players on LTIR or go over the cap limit, and stay under that limit. A team's cap can and will accrue. Consider it a form of interest and bonus for effective cap management.

    For example, a team with roughly $3.4M in cap space at the start of the season that doesn't have any players go on LTIR and stay under the cap, that team would have roughly $15M in accumulated cap space that can be put to use acquiring players at the TDL.

    This is how teams can afford to take on a players full cap hit without retention and actively fit them onto the roster while staying under the cap ceiling.

    The purpose of retaining on players is more or less to lower a players AAV, nothing more.

    The Wild currently have $6.4M in cap space as it stands. By the deadline, this number will have accrued to $14.8M.

    If you go to every teams page, it will show the various info on each teams cap situations. And will have differing amounts for current, deadline, and LTIR cap space used or available.

    Case and point, here's Minnesota's.

    https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/wild
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    Jan. 8 at 2:29 p.m.
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    Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
    75% retention on Jonathan Toews is going to cost a hell of a lot more than a 2nd 4th and 5th round pick.


    You might be right, but I wouldn’t even give that much for him.
     
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