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Blues Fire Sale

Created by: Survivorking77
Team: 2022-23 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 6, 2023
Published: Jan. 6, 2023
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Description
I'm taking a stab at Armstrong trading out core pieces, to try and tank the remainder of the year for a shot at Bedard. Armstrong has never been shy to trade pending UFAs or to walk them out to free agency.
Trades
1.
STL
  1. Bourque, Mavrik
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (DAL)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. O'Reilly, Ryan ($3,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Stars will be hungry for a C, not wanting two rookies in Dellandrea and Johnson centering their 2nd & 3rd lines for the playoffs. Trade reminds me of Stone to Vegas few years back (pending UFA for a top prospect in Brannstrom and a 2nd). Stars don't have a '23 1st to offer so Bourque is the central piece in the return.
2.
STL
  1. Belliveau, Isaac [Reserve List]
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir ($3,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
With Rust struggling, imagine Tarasenko on one of Crosby or Malkin's wings for the stretch run. Damnnn that'd be nice! The Pens are never afraid to make a splash and they make an all-in move while the aging core is still running. For a disgruntled winger, the Blues get an additional first, a mid level prospect and then Kapanen to make the money work, who could also be a serviceable player for them.
3.
STL
  1. Amirov, Rodion
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Barbashev, Ivan
Additional Details:
Although I think the Blues could re-sign Barbashev yet, the package they could get for him might be too enticing. I can picture a return similar to what Montreal received from Colorado for Lehkonen last year (Justin Barron and a 2nd). The Leafs, desperate to make a run this year, are a team I think with the appetite to do so and could move former first rounder Amirov along with a second. The Blues do take additional risk with Amirov's health but his potential is still there as a 15th overall pick.
4.
STL
  1. 2023 7th round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Greiss, Thomas
Additional Details:
A team familiar with the goalie. Islanders shell out a late pick for extra insurance heading into the post-season while the move creates room for the Blues to call up Hofer.
5.
STL
  1. 2023 4th round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Mikkola, Niko
Additional Details:
Pending UFA and a big DMan, I think teams would be happy to acquire Mikkola for extra grit and depth going into the playoffs. The Canes have cup aspirations and I think a 4th rounder would seal the deal. Also allows the Blues to call up Samorukov, give him a trial for remainder of the season after acquiring him from the Oilers
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$67,885,000$1,100,000$222,500$14,615,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
LW, RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$835,833$835,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 5
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 5
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
G
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 5
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$816,667$816,667 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C
RFA - 2
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$3,275,000$3,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Jan. 6, 2023 at 10:11 p.m.
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Varly is healthy. Isles don’t need Greiss.
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Jan. 6, 2023 at 10:14 p.m.
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Pretty sure that unless both ROR and Tarasenko absolutely burn the league down offensively, they won’t be getting those returns at the deadline. Oh sorry, I forgot, they are both currently injured and will be out 6 and 4 weeks respectively, barring further complications. So, 2 pending UFA’s that are unlikely to return, coming off injuries right before the deadline, with both having pretty miserable seasons so far, good luck finding much value.
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Jan. 6, 2023 at 10:18 p.m.
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Don't know how the middling Barbashov is worth nearly that much (as much as ROR) by this post. Plus Barbashov has been poor playoff performer.
Jan. 6, 2023 at 10:27 p.m.
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Why would Barbashev get the Lehkonen return? Lehkonen was known for driving play against very uneven opposition, being a strong PKer, etc. Barbashev doesn't measure up in any fashion.
Jan. 6, 2023 at 10:43 p.m.
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How good is Bourque? The difference between Stone and ROR is that stone was just finishing his big RFA deal. Stone they resigned for big money. ROR is on the downswing of his career
Jan. 6, 2023 at 10:44 p.m.
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Quoting: evelutions2
Pretty sure that unless both ROR and Tarasenko absolutely burn the league down offensively, they won’t be getting those returns at the deadline. Oh sorry, I forgot, they are both currently injured and will be out 6 and 4 weeks respectively, barring further complications. So, 2 pending UFA’s that are unlikely to return, coming off injuries right before the deadline, with both having pretty miserable seasons so far, good luck finding much value.


Is Bourque that good? I don't know anything about the guy but he has half a point a game in the AHL. ROR even on a down year, I think can get a first or in this case a second and what seems like a good but not great prospect. But if Bourque is really high end nevermind
Jan. 6, 2023 at 10:46 p.m.
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I can't see the Leafs trading amirov right now for his health reasons. I just don't think it would feel right for anyone involved. The Leafs have reportedly worked with him and invested in his health. I think he's just not going to be traded until he is (I really hope) over his health issues. I hope he is okay
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Jan. 6, 2023 at 10:54 p.m.
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Dallas isn’t giving that up for a guy that’s got a broken foot. That’s a massive hurdle to overcome. He’s already out until right about the deadline, and then you’re assuming he’s ready to go right at that 6-week mark. It’s very possible that you don’t get a fully healthy O’Reilly again this season. O’Reilly’s health is too big of a risk for Dallas to give up Bourque.
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Jan. 6, 2023 at 10:58 p.m.
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If I'm Dallas GM I decline that deal. No huge need for centers right now.
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Jan. 6, 2023 at 11:16 p.m.
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I think Mikkola is about the type of depth d-man the canes should be looking for. There's better options out there, but if it came down to it, a 4th for him would be a good pickup.
Jan. 6, 2023 at 11:18 p.m.
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The only one of these that could fly is Greiss. The rest are either hard passes from the Blues or the other team. Or both. But nice Trojan horse AGM where you try to trade a kid battling brain tumors. Classy stuff.
Jan. 7, 2023 at 11:57 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
If I'm Dallas GM I decline that deal. No huge need for centers right now.


With that haul, we could probably add Guri for a trade with Philly for Konecny. He’s younger with term. In your opinion, who would the Stars pursue at wing?
Jan. 7, 2023 at 1:18 p.m.
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With that haul, we could probably add Guri for a trade with Philly for Konecny. He’s younger with term. In your opinion, who would the Stars pursue at wing?


Good question. Capwise, our options are limited. Before we make a decision in that regard, we need to make sure we can afford the target, both short and long term.

If we were to slot this winger to the lineup now, it'd had to be someone that fits to a line with Seguin and Marchment. Segs and Mason bring leadership, offensive prowess and some physicality into a line, but they somewhat lack speed. I think the guy we should go after would be someone that has good legs. Konecny works in this regard imo, but PHI will demand a huge cost for him.

We also need to consider the long-term need. Should we target a rental, and then trust Stankoven to fill that hole long term. Or should we pay up a bit more to get a long-term asset? If we think pure rentals, Patrick Kane obviously comes to mind, but Hawks probably don't want to deal him to a division rival. Kuzmenko, if he's available, is an option to consider as well.

Also, is there a potential option in the market that could be had for a reduced price for some reason. Would that save us cost wise and if it does, how much. Guys like Boeser has been in the rumors for a while, and I wonder if guys like Vrana or Mantha are also available at a cheaper price given their reduced roles in their current teams.

Lots of questions need answering. But it's safe to say it'll be nigh on impossible to find one guy who meshes well with all the mentioned criteria
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Jan. 7, 2023 at 1:52 p.m.
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Good question. Capwise, our options are limited. Before we make a decision in that regard, we need to make sure we can afford the target, both short and long term.

If we were to slot this winger to the lineup now, it'd had to be someone that fits to a line with Seguin and Marchment. Segs and Mason bring leadership, offensive prowess and some physicality into a line, but they somewhat lack speed. I think the guy we should go after would be someone that has good legs. Konecny works in this regard imo, but PHI will demand a huge cost for him.

We also need to consider the long-term need. Should we target a rental, and then trust Stankoven to fill that hole long term. Or should we pay up a bit more to get a long-term asset? If we think pure rentals, Patrick Kane obviously comes to mind, but Hawks probably don't want to deal him to a division rival. Kuzmenko, if he's available, is an option to consider as well.

Also, is there a potential option in the market that could be had for a reduced price for some reason. Would that save us cost wise and if it does, how much. Guys like Boeser has been in the rumors for a while, and I wonder if guys like Vrana or Mantha are also available at a cheaper price given their reduced roles in their current teams.

Lots of questions need answering. But it's safe to say it'll be nigh on impossible to find one guy who meshes well with all the mentioned criteria


With Texas playing well, I don’t think we will want to mess up the chemistry in the A. Mavrik and Stankoven are keeps. I’m thinking our trade chips are Guri, Faksa, and picks. I don’t think we would move Dobby. He helps Texas out, and winning / playoff runs are good mentally for players in the A.

I think Domi could improve the second line for low cost. Konecny is my first choice, but he might be too much. Boeser would cost too much long term, so there would have to be retention. Same thing with Horvat (who we couldn’t afford to extend). AA could add speed at a low cost. Monahan and ROR have been injured (remember Zuc).

I guess imo the most reasonable would be Domi or Boeser with retention (if Faksa and Guri go the other way). OR Horvat with Guri and Faksa going the other way for cost. If we pulled Horvat without losing Logan, Mavrik, or Harley… I would be impressed.
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