Edmonton gets defensive

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Created by: Kyle_Davidson

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 7, 2023

Published: Jan. 7, 2023

Team: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks

Trades

CHI

Foegele, Warren
Puljujärvi, Jesse
2023 1st round pick (EDM)
2024 4th round pick (EDM)

Additional Details:

If EDM 1st round pick doesn’t transfer in 2023 as a result of the protection the 2024 4th round pick becomes at 2023 3rd round pick.

EDM

Blackwell, Colin
McCabe, Jake

Additional Details:

Pick is playoff protected.

Buyouts

Brett Connolly: $1,166,667
Henrik Borgström: $83,334

Retained Salary Transactions

Patrick Kane: $5,250,000 (50%)
Jake McCabe: $2,000,000 (50%)

Recapture Fees

Duncan Keith: $5,538,462

DRAFT YEAR	ROUND 1	ROUND 2	ROUND 3	ROUND 4	ROUND 5	ROUND 6	ROUND 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$77,901,796	$237,500	$1,357,500	$4,598,204

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Athanasiou, Andreas $3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Toews, Jonathan $10,500,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Puljujärvi, Jesse $3,000,000 RW RFA - 1
Reichel, Lukas $925,000 LW, C RFA - 2	Domi, Max $3,000,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Kane, Patrick $2,625,000 RW NMC UFA - 1
Katchouk, Boris $758,333 LW RFA - 2	Dickinson, Jason $2,650,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Johnson, Tyler $5,000,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Kurashev, Philipp $750,000 LW, C, RW RFA - 1	Seney, Brett $750,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Lafferty, Sam $1,150,000 RW, C, LW UFA - 2
Foegele, Warren $2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Raddysh, Taylor $758,333 RW RFA - 2	Johnson, Reese $800,000 RW, C RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Jones, Caleb $1,350,000 LD/RD RFA - 1	Jones, Seth $9,500,000 RD NMC UFA - 8	Mrázek, Petr $3,800,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Johnson, Jack $950,000 LD UFA - 1	Murphy, Connor $4,400,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Stalock, Alex $750,000 G UFA - 1
Phillips, Isaak $859,167 LD RFA - 2	Mitchell, Ian $925,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Khaira, Jujhar $975,000 LW, C UFA - 1
	Tinordi, Jarred $900,000 LD UFA - 1
	Entwistle, Mackenzie $800,000 LW, C RFA - 2

Jan. 7 at 10:13 p.m.

Bluetomorrow83

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Make the 4th a guaranteed 3rd and swap Blackwell to Lafferty?

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Jan. 7 at 10:42 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Would be great for Edmonton, they really need a McCabe type dman.

Jan. 7 at 10:49 p.m.

swinny

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Would be great for Edmonton, they really need a McCabe type dman.

I think this proposed deal makes a tonne of sesne for both teams also.

My concern is McCabe injury history. The type.of guy Edmonton needs yes, but I would be super reluctant to move a 2023 given that factor. 2024 absolutely.

And yes, I realize Foegele is a cap dump here, but still.......

Jan. 8 at 12:05 a.m.

Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Would be great for Edmonton, they really need a McCabe type dman.

Quoting: swinny

Jake McCabe is not worth a first round pick in the NHL draft. To be honest from what I’ve seen from him in Buffalo and Chicago he isn’t worth a conditional seventh.

Jan. 8 at 1:17 a.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: Isles5513

Jake McCabe is not worth a first round pick in the NHL draft. To be honest from what I’ve seen from him in Buffalo and Chicago he isn’t worth a conditional seventh.

Lol

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Jan. 8 at 1:41 a.m.

McGruff

GM CRIME DAWG

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EDM p i s s poor defensive needs is not available currently.
They need:
Bourque
Stevens
Blake
Niedermayer
Chelios
Pronger

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Jan. 8 at 1:45 a.m.

Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Lol

He’s an ineffective puck mover and he isn’t a great defender.

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Jan. 8 at 2:40 a.m.

Homesick

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Quoting: Isles5513

He’s an ineffective puck mover and he isn’t a great defender.

Oh, c'mon. Why wouldn't a team drop a 1st for a second pairing defenseman on the worst team in the league with zero playoff experience?

Jan. 8 at 5:07 a.m.

ChiHawk

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Quoting: Isles5513

Jake McCabe is not worth a first round pick in the NHL draft. To be honest from what I’ve seen from him in Buffalo and Chicago he isn’t worth a conditional seventh.

Apparently you haven't watched him much in Chicago because that's a horrible take

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Jan. 8 at 5:09 a.m.

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ChiHawk

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Quoting: Isles5513

He’s an ineffective puck mover and he isn’t a great defender.

He's a very good defender, on a terrible team he's the only one with a positive +/-, which normally I wouldn't put much weight into but if you watch every game you will see why. A late first is not that valuable for a 2nd pairing good defender with term.

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Jan. 8 at 8:59 a.m.

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Garak

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I'm confused by the wording there, but I'm pretty sure you intended it to be a given. But, does that mean that CHI would receive EDM's 2024 1st and the 2023 3rd instead, or ONLY the 2023 3rd?

Jan. 8 at 10:21 a.m.

#12

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: Homesick

Oh, c'mon. Why wouldn't a team drop a 1st for a second pairing defenseman on the worst team in the league with zero playoff experience?

No playoff experience didn't seem to effect Hainsey at all.

Jan. 8 at 10:30 a.m.

#13

Koskinen_The_Great

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Sure.

Jan. 8 at 10:45 a.m.

#14

Homesick

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

No playoff experience didn't seem to effect Hainsey at all.

How much did the Penguins pay for Hainsey? Not to mention that Hainsey was a better defenseman playing on a fringe playoff team. Not the worst

Jan. 8 at 11:09 a.m.

#15

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: Homesick

How much did the Penguins pay for Hainsey? Not to mention that Hainsey was a better defenseman playing on a fringe playoff team. Not the worst

So it really matters the team the guy comes from??

Idk what Pittsburgh paid for Hainsey but he was likely a rental, McCabe has term which adds value.

Jan. 8 at 3:54 p.m.

#16

Kyle_Davidson

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Quoting: Garak

I'm confused by the wording there, but I'm pretty sure you intended it to be a given. But, does that mean that CHI would receive EDM's 2024 1st and the 2023 3rd instead, or ONLY the 2023 3rd?

Both

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Jan. 8 at 4:41 p.m.

#17

Garak

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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson

Both

Cool cool. I figured. Just wanted to clarify.

Jan. 8 at 5:40 p.m.

#18

Homesick

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

So it really matters the team the guy comes from??

Idk what Pittsburgh paid for Hainsey but he was likely a rental, McCabe has term which adds value.

Hainsey was #3 behind Faulk and Slavin(with Pesce and Hanifin on the team). So yeah it does matter what team he came from. PIT paid a 2nd and a career minor leaguer for him. McCabe is #4 behind Seth Jones, Jack Johnson(lol) and Connor Murphy.
McCabe isn't an upgrade on Nurse or Kulak. If the want to add a LD at the expense of a 1st and putting Broberg in the PB they might as well do a package deal for a real upgrade

Jan. 8 at 9:37 p.m.

#19

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: Homesick

It really has no bearing what team a player comes from, if he's an upgrade and can help your team then that's all that matters.

No McCabe is not behind Jack Johnson on the Hawks D depth chart, he's #2 or 3 behind Jones, debatable who's higher between him or Murphy but its close.

McCabe is better defensively then both Nurse and Kulak, McCabe would definitely slot in on the Oilers 2nd pair and take some pressure off of Nurse.

You clearly have some irrational dislike for McCabe, pointless to even continue this debate.

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