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Team: 2022-23 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 9, 2023
Published: Jan. 9, 2023
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Trades
1.
CGY
ANA
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (CGY)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (CGY)
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FLA
  1. Dubé, Dillon
  2. Pelletier, Jakob
  3. 2023 1st round pick (CGY)
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2023
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2024
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21$82,500,000$71,612,500$0$200,000$10,887,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$762,500$762,500
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
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UFA - 2
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$912,500$912,500
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1

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Jan. 9, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.
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I would accept that offer in a heartbeat as the Anaheim GM. I'd happily give you our 2024 seventh and 2025 fifth for it, too.
Jan. 9, 2023 at 4:34 p.m.
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Anaheim graciously accepts
Jan. 9, 2023 at 5:06 p.m.
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I think the value is fair for Reinhart, but I doubt they would accept because it leaves them too weak down the middle. I like the idea of giving huberdeau his old linemate though. He certainly needs it.

Calgary would give their 2024 1st, not 2023.
Jan. 10, 2023 at 2:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Dr_Invictus
I think the value is fair for Reinhart, but I doubt they would accept because it leaves them too weak down the middle. I like the idea of giving huberdeau his old linemate though. He certainly needs it.

Calgary would give their 2024 1st, not 2023.


I think the impetus for making a Reinhart proposal here is that Frank Seravalli has reported that FLA might try to move either of Bennett or Reinhart to recoup some of the significant amount of draft capital they've given up recently. No one in Florida thought they would be struggling to make playoffs this year, but it also seems like in making the Matthew Tkachuk trade they recognized they would have less urgency to win right away and kind of reset their intended competitive window.

Reinhart only has one year remaining on his $6.5M contract after this season, and they only gave up the 2022 28th overall pick and Devon Levi to get him. So it's possible if they look like a non-playoff team come TDL, they might think he's more valuable as a trade chip than as a guy who would be a pending UFA next year.

All that said, I still don't think they move him. Not many teams have the ability to add $6.5M right now, and I imagine FLA has no desire to retain any money. The teams that can afford him aren't going to be the ones giving up their early draft picks.

Also think Calgary is going to have to give up the 2023 1st. Their hands are pretty much tied on moving the 2024 1st or FLAs 2025 1st right now given the absurd laundry list of conditions currently attached to those picks.
Jan. 10, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.
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I think the impetus for making a Reinhart proposal here is that Frank Seravalli has reported that FLA might try to move either of Bennett or Reinhart to recoup some of the significant amount of draft capital they've given up recently. No one in Florida thought they would be struggling to make playoffs this year, but it also seems like in making the Matthew Tkachuk trade they recognized they would have less urgency to win right away and kind of reset their intended competitive window.

Reinhart only has one year remaining on his $6.5M contract after this season, and they only gave up the 2022 28th overall pick and Devon Levi to get him. So it's possible if they look like a non-playoff team come TDL, they might think he's more valuable as a trade chip than as a guy who would be a pending UFA next year.

All that said, I still don't think they move him. Not many teams have the ability to add $6.5M right now, and I imagine FLA has no desire to retain any money. The teams that can afford him aren't going to be the ones giving up their early draft picks.

Also think Calgary is going to have to give up the 2023 1st. Their hands are pretty much tied on moving the 2024 1st or FLAs 2025 1st right now given the absurd laundry list of conditions currently attached to those picks.


I dunno, it would seem difficult to replace Reinhart at 2C. Lindell seems like a 3C. Then again, I haven't looked at the FA market for next year. Although, the biggest mistakes are made July 1st. Signing anyone over 28 to a long-term deal is foolish. The contracts end poorly (as Calgary will find out). Calgary isn't close to contention IMO and they need a solid pick in this draft to restock the cupboards. My guess is that prices will be lower than anticipated this TD day. As you said, the cap is tight and could be only increasing by 1MM next year
Jan. 11, 2023 at 1:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Dr_Invictus
I dunno, it would seem difficult to replace Reinhart at 2C. Lindell seems like a 3C. Then again, I haven't looked at the FA market for next year. Although, the biggest mistakes are made July 1st. Signing anyone over 28 to a long-term deal is foolish. The contracts end poorly (as Calgary will find out). Calgary isn't close to contention IMO and they need a solid pick in this draft to restock the cupboards. My guess is that prices will be lower than anticipated this TD day. As you said, the cap is tight and could be only increasing by 1MM next year


I think the Flames are pretty stuck right now, TBH. Worrying about draft picks and restocking the prospect cupboards isn't really a realistic option.

You can't suck and blow at the same time---the moves Treliving made this summer (trading 24 year old Tkachuk for two 29 year olds and giving them huge extensions, signing a 32 year old Kadri to a huge contract, trading a 1st round pick just to dump Monahan's salary etc.) already solidified the "win now" direction the Flames would be pursuing. You can't really hit the undo button on those---and the future has already been mortgaged.

Even though they look like garbage right now, you kind of have to be at least willing to move your picks and prospects because they aren't likely going to help you win in this limited contention window the Flames have carved out for themselves. Next year, the extensions for Huberdeau, Weegar and Vladar kick in. The year after, Lindholm, Hanifin, Toffoli, Backlund, Tanev, Kylington, Zadorov are all UFAs. Dube, Pelletier, Ruzicka all RFAs needing raises.

There really isn't a bright future for this Flames group as currently constructed. You can try and spend assets to fix your problems and double down on the "win now" strategy the GM already chose. Maybe you can try and undo some of the damage already done and start looking at a new contention window. But sitting back and doing nothing this year really doesn't seem like a viable option to me if you want to avoid just wasting years.
 
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