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Jonathan Druin And Joel Edmunson Apparently

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Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 11, 2023
Published: Jan. 11, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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EDM
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,750,000 retained)
  2. Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)
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  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Rodrigue, Olivier
  3. Tullio, Tyler
  4. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
  5. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 6:39 p.m.
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You’ll probably be disappointed if you give up that package. Drouin is not a top 6 forward.

Can’t see the Habs hesitating for a second on this trade. They could probably flip Barrie to a contender as well. Still a useful defenseman.
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 6:42 p.m.
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Quoting: turtlemountain
You’ll probably be disappointed if you give up that package. Drouin is not a top 6 forward.

Can’t see the Habs hesitating for a second on this trade. They could probably flip Barrie to a contender as well. Still a useful defenseman.


Was disappointed when I read the article... I like Barrie on the Powerplay, but it's also obvious that we need Defensive defenceman... A small price to pay to play during the summer... Sad...
Jan. 11, 2023 at 6:43 p.m.
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Quoting: turtlemountain
You’ll probably be disappointed if you give up that package. Drouin is not a top 6 forward.

Can’t see the Habs hesitating for a second on this trade. They could probably flip Barrie to a contender as well. Still a useful defenseman.


They wouldnt be able to retain on barrie (they would only have 1 slot left and monahan is more valuable) so trading him would be difficult this year.
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 6:47 p.m.
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Hans could flip Barrie for a first rounder but Edmonton has more use for Barrie than other teams. He’s been good here. I would rather give up Yamamoto, puljujarvi or Foegele, edmunson would be good. Not interested in Drouin
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 6:54 p.m.
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They wouldnt be able to retain on barrie (they would only have 1 slot left and monahan is more valuable) so trading him would be difficult this year.


Regardless, you’re getting an asset that has value that some team would pay for at the deadline. Someone could find a way to cap gymnastics that (LTIR, send back a bad expiring deal, launder through a 3rd team, etc).

From an outsiders POV, this is a very easy no for Edmonton
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 7:13 p.m.
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From an outsiders POV, this is a very easy no for Edmonton

From another outsiders POV, this is another easy no for Edmonton.

I don't know why Habs fans keep trying to foist Drouin off in a package with Edmondson. They should be happy that they're getting good value out of Edmundson.
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 7:20 p.m.
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Hans could flip Barrie for a first rounder but Edmonton has more use for Barrie than other teams. He’s been good here. I would rather give up Yamamoto, puljujarvi or Foegele, edmunson would be good. Not interested in Drouin


Flippin Barrie for a 1st... That'd be awesome if Kenny Holland could pull that off
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 7:23 p.m.
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From another outsiders POV, this is another easy no for Edmonton.

I don't know why Habs fans keep trying to foist Drouin off in a package with Edmondson. They should be happy that they're getting good value out of Edmundson.


You realize the OP is an Oiler's fan right?! So the second half of your comment makes 0 sense and offers nothing of value to the conversation, hence it was just added to flame Habs fans.
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 7:37 p.m.
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You realize the OP is an Oiler's fan right?! So the second half of your comment makes 0 sense and offers nothing of value to the conversation, hence it was just added to flame Habs fans.

No, I see this package presented by Habs fans two or three times a day lately. My comment was general, and meant to indicate the unintended damage of target creep.
Jan. 11, 2023 at 7:40 p.m.
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No, I see this package presented by Habs fans two or three times a day lately. My comment was general, and meant to indicate the unintended damage of target creep.


Some unsubstantiated Twitter account posted it. Why people follow and regurgitate ideas from nameless sources with no credibility is the question.
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 7:55 p.m.
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Quoting: ricochetii
Some unsubstantiated Twitter account posted it. Why people follow and regurgitate ideas from nameless sources with no credibility is the question.

Here are the three from today:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3855760
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3854795
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3854623

To be fair, I just assumed these were all posted by Habs fans; the third was not.
Jan. 11, 2023 at 7:56 p.m.
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You want to trade for a 2nd line winger who has not scored a goal this year and has only 8 in his last 103 games over 3 seasons? Good luck with that. Jeff Gorton will add you to his Christmas card list.
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 8:36 p.m.
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Quoting: ricochetii
Some unsubstantiated Twitter account posted it. Why people follow and regurgitate ideas from nameless sources with no credibility is the question.


why would we all be crying on the net if both fan base have offered similar AGM ? Isn't part of the idea of trying to find deal or player that can fit system of other teams?

Drouin might not be the be suited for habs, but who know really that he can' fits the oiler team or with who or where he can play on that roster?

Twitter, FB, YT might bring a whole lot of shhht but maybe behind all that smoke their is a probability. The main question is : Are the deals value wise and doable ... not if your feeling are hurt or not!
Jan. 11, 2023 at 8:39 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Here are the three from today:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3855760
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3854795
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3854623

To be fair, I just assumed these were all posted by Habs fans; the third was not.


Both fan base since the beginning of the season have made deal with one or the two of Edmundson or/and Drouin, now you just need to fill you reaction for OP wink !! Geez this is going to be long to build a real community if their is always bashing or people crying about who should do what. It's a fantasy not your funural to do list.
Jan. 11, 2023 at 8:39 p.m.
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Quoting: delneggs
You want to trade for a 2nd line winger who has not scored a goal this year and has only 8 in his last 103 games over 3 seasons? Good luck with that. Jeff Gorton will add you to his Christmas card list.


points are something yeah, care to explain why the players never get at his previous pace ?
Jan. 11, 2023 at 8:46 p.m.
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Both fan base since the beginning of the season have made deal with one or the two of Edmundson or/and Drouin, now you just need to fill you reaction for OP wink !! Geez this is going to be long to build a real community if their is always bashing or people crying about who should do what. It's a fantasy not your funural to do list.


YOUR fellow Habs fan Campabee accused me of trying to flame Habs fans. I was providing factual evidence disproving the accusation. I have nothing to regret or apologize for. Your criticism is utterly unwarranted and, given my prior experience of your participation on CapFriendly, both surprising and disappointing.
Jan. 11, 2023 at 8:54 p.m.
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YOUR fellow Habs fan Campabee accused me of trying to flame Habs fans. I was providing factual evidence disproving the accusation. I have nothing to regret or apologize for. Your criticism is utterly unwarranted and, given my prior experience of your participation on CapFriendly, both surprising and disappointing.


yep but this is out of op agm, guys try to keep all your emotion for yourself!! I know it's surprising both this site need to have a message section so people can talk about disagreement so AGM won't ba a martyre wall.

So far there is not much to bite about this AGM.
Jan. 11, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
why would we all be crying on the net if both fan base have offered similar AGM ? Isn't part of the idea of trying to find deal or player that can fit system of other teams?

Drouin might not be the be suited for habs, but who know really that he can' fits the oiler team or with who or where he can play on that roster?

Twitter, FB, YT might bring a whole lot of shhht but maybe behind all that smoke their is a probability. The main question is : Are the deals value wise and doable ... not if your feeling are hurt or not!


All I was saying is that people are pulling their ideas from some random dude on Twitter and that doesn't mean it has merit.
Jan. 11, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.
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No, I see this package presented by Habs fans two or three times a day lately. My comment was general, and meant to indicate the unintended damage of target creep.


Did you or did you not say

"I don't know why Habs fans keep trying to foist Drouin off in a package with Edmondson. They should be happy that they're getting good value out of Edmundson."

And is the definition of Flaming not

FLAMING

Personal attacks on users, groups of people, or fanbases are not permitted. Do not harass, threaten, mock, or insult others. Debates are encouraged, but ad hominem attacks are not (criticize the opinion, not the user).

You posted an unneeded comment attacking Habs fans about how often you see these types of threads posted by Habs fans on an Oilers fans ACGM. There was no need for the comment on any ACGM let alone this one. That my friend is Flaming whether intentional or not.
Jan. 11, 2023 at 9:36 p.m.
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Did you or did you not say

"I don't know why Habs fans keep trying to foist Drouin off in a package with Edmondson. They should be happy that they're getting good value out of Edmundson."

You posted an unneeded comment attacking Habs fans about how often you see these types of threads posted by Habs fans on an Oilers fans ACGM. There was no need for the comment on any ACGM let alone this one. That my friend is Flaming whether intentional or not.

Wrong.
I made an indisputably true statement -- prior to this ACGM, two Habs fans posted this exact trade TODAY. I've given you the ACGM links. The fact that I was mistaken about the identity of a third poster is irrelevant.
Making a true statement is not flaming no matter how much you'd like it to be. My statement was not only not "unneeded," it was truthful, therefore relevant.
"Flaming" would be "The Habs fanbase is always . . . "
If in future it will make you feel better, I'll be careful to say "Some Habs fans" instead of "Habs fans" when referring to some of them.
Jan. 11, 2023 at 9:59 p.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
points are something yeah, care to explain why the players never get at his previous pace ?


I have no idea what you are asking.
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 10:20 p.m.
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I have no idea what you are asking.


care to explain why drouin never gets at his previous pace ?
Jan. 11, 2023 at 10:26 p.m.
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Was disappointed when I read the article... I like Barrie on the Powerplay, but it's also obvious that we need Defensive defenceman... A small price to pay to play during the summer... Sad...


What article is this?
Jan. 11, 2023 at 10:39 p.m.
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care to explain why drouin never gets at his previous pace ?


Why would I have to explain why he has scored only 8 goals in his last 108 games over three seasons, and NONE so far this year?
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Jan. 11, 2023 at 10:47 p.m.
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Quoting: delneggs
Why would I have to explain why he has scored only 8 goals in his last 108 games over three seasons, and NONE so far this year?


to understand why he is been this bad ... Drouin suffer mutiples injuries and also mental health issues ... care to understand that the guy his basicly trying to play the game and get back on a regular pace. Armia many concusion, long covid and other injuries ... Gallagher ... would accept people talking about injury prone players, but when it come to call player bad or washed i'm kind of pissed off.

Points are only one part of the game, chemistry, two way game, defense side, etc complete the set. Every AGM people complain about money due to cap space or point production but barely asses team or players situation...
 
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