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Horvat Kuzmenko out

Created by: AV77
Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 12, 2023
Published: Jan. 12, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
2023 Deadline moves, Free Agency, and Draft
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
3$800,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,200,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$5,500,000
1$850,000
1$850,000
3$4,000,000
2$850,000
1$3,000,000
2$3,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Smith, Will
3$800,000
Stramel, Charlie
3$800,000
Brzustewicz, Hunter
3$800,000
Reinbacher, David
3$800,000
Trades
1.
2.
VAN
  1. 2023 1st round pick (VGK)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (BUF)
3.
VAN
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
4.
VAN
  1. 2023 4th round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
Trade made after Myers gets 5m signing bonus
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$72,544,167$850,000$500,000$9,955,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$762,500$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$762,500$762,500
G
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1

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Jan. 12, 2023 at 7:51 a.m.
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Jan. 12, 2023 at 8:03 a.m.
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That’s even worse than most of these offers for Horvat to Carolina. For that price, Horvat can just rot in Vancouver for the rest of the season.
Jan. 12, 2023 at 8:25 a.m.
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Ottawa doesn't have the cap space next year to take on another overpaid, useless RD
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Jan. 12, 2023 at 8:41 a.m.
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I think you meant to make Horvat Petterssen. For either Jarvis or Morrow, Horvat is a non starter. For both? We're talking EP with retention. BOY HOWDY That's a bad deal.
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Jan. 12, 2023 at 11:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
I think you meant to make Horvat Petterssen. For either Jarvis or Morrow, Horvat is a non starter. For both? We're talking EP with retention. BOY HOWDY That's a bad deal.


You go from one hyperbole to another. Pettersson becomes the best player on CAR if he gets traded... then youre asking for retention. We are talking Aho (almost UFA), Morrow, Jarvis and then some hahaha
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Jan. 12, 2023 at 12:09 p.m.
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You go from one hyperbole to another. Pettersson becomes the best player on CAR if he gets traded... then youre asking for retention. We are talking Aho (almost UFA), Morrow, Jarvis and then some hahaha


Just one of three Canes fans delusional about Horvat’s value with the excuse that they won’t trade “futures” for him. The price for Horvat will still be your top prospect.
Jan. 12, 2023 at 12:14 p.m.
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Hahahaha!!!
Jan. 12, 2023 at 12:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
I think you meant to make Horvat Petterssen. For either Jarvis or Morrow, Horvat is a non starter. For both? We're talking EP with retention. BOY HOWDY That's a bad deal.


Just taking what Sportsnet put together, from someone who knows better than both of us... I actually left their suggested 3rd rounder out because I thought it was too steep. Here's the article: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/four-potential-trade-destinations-and-proposals-for-bo-horvat/
Jan. 12, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.
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Ottawa doesn't have the cap space next year to take on another overpaid, useless RD


Honestly who cares? I did this one for any team that would be ok taking that cap space for 1 year since after his 5 million dollar signing bonus is paid any team that takes him will be paying one year at only $1 million in actual salary and would get an upgraded draft pick for it. It could be Arizona or Seattle or whoever, someone will do it. Only thing that would prevent it is he has a modified no move. Either way, I still left 6 million in cap space so I could just bury him in the minors or keep him on the team and it wouldn't make a difference to the team assembled.
Jan. 12, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.
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Also I chose Ottawa because they proved they were an easy mark after the Hamonic deal smile
Jan. 12, 2023 at 12:35 p.m.
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That’s even worse than most of these offers for Horvat to Carolina. For that price, Horvat can just rot in Vancouver for the rest of the season.


Honestly I'd be happy with Morrow and a first but Sportsnet had it at a much higher price. Guess we'll have to wait and see. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/four-potential-trade-destinations-and-proposals-for-bo-horvat/
Jan. 12, 2023 at 12:48 p.m.
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Honestly I'd be happy with Morrow and a first but Sportsnet had it at a much higher price. Guess we'll have to wait and see. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/four-potential-trade-destinations-and-proposals-for-bo-horvat/


And Morrow won’t be getting moved, and the Canes don’t dish out firsts for rentals. From a Canes point of view, the only reason we have to “wait and see” is when these ridiculous posts will stop.

In that article, Bukala says the Canes could “Kucherov” Patches. There is a couple of problems with that logic: 1) Patches has already been activated and has been very good in the games he played; and 2) even if Patches was going to be one the shelf until the playoffs, Waddell has publicly stated that he was not going to pull a Kucherov. Moving Jarvis is not an option with the cap complexion whilst he is on his ELC. Moving a top line winger on his ELC for a rental would be massively unwise. Noesen has been too important to the Canes PP this year to move, and if he gets moved, it will be a move down to the Wolves. You might want to fact check your sources before you use them, cause Bukala clearly isn’t a reliable source.
Jan. 12, 2023 at 12:56 p.m.
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Again, I'd be happy with Morrow and a first. That said, even though it's a speculative article these guys know way more than you or I, so I stand by my trade.
 
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