Don't think it matters. Holl will be getting a fairly sizable raise next season and Toronto is probably out of that market. Timmins is the RHD replacement who they already have and is relatively low cost. He's a long term project.

im happy for Timmins, hes finally getting to showcase how good he is and what avs fans were saying about him for years but 13 games does not just set a guys value, it doesnt work like that nor has it ever worked like that.

You would get more interest in him, but no team is trading a 1st for Timmins. His biggest knock has been able to stay healthy, and 13 games doesnt change that reservation that teams would have about him

I couldn't agree more with your Holl take. He has quietly done everything the coaching staff has asked him to do obviously with different levels of success. However his value to the leafs is going to have to be replaced with one or two cheaper options in the Offseason. It also wouldnt surprise me if Dubas looks to upgrade Holls roll position with the team at the deadline. With that be said it would be very difficult to do and likely expensive.

He's also playing 16 mins a night. A nice story but we're talking a 3rd being fair value.

Man, you said this so much nicer and more articulately than I would have. Thank you for that. 😂

A 3rd is more reasonable. Hes not a top 4 horse. A above average depth Dman. His ceiling was a 2nd pairing Dman when he was drafted. I hope he can get there one day still
I still dont understand why Arizona moved him

Maybe 3rd or 4th

.......he is a 24 year old dman with less than 60 career games and less than 20 career points.......

At this moment he is worth maybe a 7th round pick guys with his career go on waivers dozens of times at the start of each year

They would have likely have to waive him to make room for injured players I believe

Why trade him? Sign him to a 2 x 4 Justin Holl extension and have him be Holl's replacement on the backend. Trading Timmins only hurts Toronto

Brodie really said a first 😭😭😭

Don’t think they sauce hi

If he continues to play well in TO that’s the best move they could make. Give him term and security for the trade off of a lower aav. I think he would take a deal like that