Reversing just 6 horrible trades made by Pierre Dorion that still resonate today

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Created by: sensonfire

Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 16, 2023

Published: Jan. 16, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

1. June 24th, 2016

Gives up a 3rd round pick to move up only one spot in the draft.

It's also his very first trade as GM of the Ottawa Senators.

#12 + #80

for

#11

2. July 18th, 2016

Mika Zibanejad + 2nd round pick

for

Derick Brassard + 7th round pick

3. November 5th, 2017

Matt Duchene

for

Andrew Hammond
Signing rights to Shane Bowers
Top 10 Protected 1st round pick
3rd round pick

and

Kyle Turris

and

Vladislav Kamenev
Sam Girard
2nd round pick

4. February 25th, 2019

Mark Stone + Tobias Lindberg

for

Oscar Lindberg + Erik Brannstrom + 2nd round pick

5. October 7th, 2020

Matt Murray + the contract he signed

for Jonathan Gruden + 2nd round pick

6. December 26th, 2020

Derek Stepan + his cap hit of 6.5 million

for

2nd round pick

Trades

DET

OTT

Miller, K'Andre

NYR

Bernard-Docker, Jacob
Tychonick, Jonathan [Reserve List]

OTT

Gustavsson, Filip

MIN

Talbot, Cam

OTT

PIT

OTT

COL

OTT

Girard, Samuel
Kamenev, Vladislav [Reserve List]

COL

OTT

Hållander, Filip

PIT

10.

OTT

CBJ

Abramov, Vitaly [Reserve List]
Thomson, Lassi

11.

OTT

Stone, Mark

VGK

12.

OTT

Murray, Matt
2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
2024 7th round pick (OTT)

TOR

13.

OTT

Blomqvist, Joel [Reserve List]
Gruden, Jonathan

PIT

Murray, Matt

14.

OTT

Doan, Josh [Reserve List]

ARI

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
Colin White: $875,000
Michael Del Zotto: $500,000
Dion Phaneuf: $354,167

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$82,500,000	$83,372,381	$0	$6,525,000	-$872,381

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 6	Zibanejad, Mika $8,500,000$8,500,000 C NMC UFA - 8	Stone, Mark $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 5
DeBrincat, Alex $6,400,000$6,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Stützle, Tim $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Giroux, Claude $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 3
Joseph, Mathieu $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 1	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
Berggren, Jonatan $925,000$925,000 RW, LW RFA - 2	McLeod, Michael $975,000$975,000 C RFA - 1	Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 6	Zub, Artem $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 3
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LD UFA - 2	Girard, Samuel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 5	Mandolese, Kevin $835,000$835,000 G RFA - 1
Holden, Nick $1,300,000$1,300,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Hamonic, Travis $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Kelly, Parker $762,500$762,500 LW RFA - 2	Byram, Bowen $894,167$894,167 ($2,500,000$2M) LD/RD RFA - 1	Norris, Joshua $7,950,000$7,950,000 C UFA - 8
		Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2
		Motte, Tyler $1,350,000$1,350,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
DeBrincat, A.		Zibanejad, M.		Stone, M.
	Chabot, T.		Stützle, T.

Power Play 2
Tkachuk, B.		Pinto, S.		Batherson, D.
	Girard, S.		Giroux, C.

Penalty Kill 1
	Joseph, M.	Zibanejad, M.
	Sanderson, J.	Zub, A.

Penalty Kill 2
	Pinto, S.	Watson, A.
	Holden, N.	Hamonic, T.

Jan. 16, 2023 at 2:49 p.m.

la_scaloneta

Joined: Mar. 2022

Posts: 975

Likes: 148

Probably the Boucher pick will be one down the line too.

Jan. 16, 2023 at 2:50 p.m.

sensonfire

Thread Starter

sensonfire

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Posts: 11,751

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Quoting: Analytics_are_good

Probably the Boucher pick will be one down the line too.

When did we trade for the Boucher pick?

Jan. 16, 2023 at 2:54 p.m.

myboykole

Joined: Oct. 2022

Posts: 989

Likes: 367

I love the Vegas trade. Instead of teams fleecing us and us being stupid (Suzuki trade, Fleury trade ETC) we fleeced you guys. Feel bad, but hey, it is what it is

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Jan. 16, 2023 at 3:08 p.m.

la_scaloneta

Joined: Mar. 2022

Posts: 975

Likes: 148

Quoting: sensonfire

When did we trade for the Boucher pick?

Ah, not a trade. But just a bad move in general.

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Jan. 16, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.

athrin

Joined: May 2017

Posts: 5,577

Likes: 1,436

Quoting: myboykole

I love the Vegas trade. Instead of teams fleecing us and us being stupid (Suzuki trade, Fleury trade ETC) we fleeced you guys. Feel bad, but hey, it is what it is

fleecing is a understatement, you got a top 5-10 RW for essentially nothing.

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Jan. 16, 2023 at 4:14 p.m.

RazWild

Joined: Jun. 2020

Posts: 4,414

Likes: 3,130

Hindsight is 20/20, but it is what it is.

That said.

THANKS FOR THE GUS-BUS!

The future Wallstedt/Gustavsson tandem in Minnesota is going to be a nightmare for other teams for 10+ years.

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Jan. 16, 2023 at 4:41 p.m.

Xspyrit

Joined: Jul. 2016

Posts: 10,482

Likes: 3,711

This is hard to read. I just wish we had only Mann making draft selections and basically don't do anything else.

We'd basically have a dynasty by now

What is funny is that Norris and Byram are not even on the roster due to injuries! (but of course we'd bust the cap real quick)

Quoting: RazWild

Hindsight is 20/20, but it is what it is.

That said.

THANKS FOR THE GUS-BUS!

The future Wallstedt/Gustavsson tandem in Minnesota is going to be a nightmare for other teams for 10+ years.

This is hilarious when you're really used to criticize Dorion

I mean I like the guy, he looks cool and everything but damn, I have been calling out his moves in advance and was basically right every single time.

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