I know, people are ridiculous on this site.

It's funny you think this has anything to do with fair. It's been stated he's untouchable and he hasn't demanded out so if you want him, it's gonna cost a gross overpayment not fair value lol

Haha. VAN fans are delusional. Power is a #1 OA pick.

Why would BUF be giving up more?

I agree with every take in your original quote besides this one. Peterson is not one of the best players in the league (unless you are talking top 20-30). Is he the best player on his team? Yes. Would he be the best player on some other teams? Yes. Is he better than McKinnon, Makar, Mcdavid, Matthews (even when he is "slumping" by making the players around him a lot more dangerous, see Bunting and Nylander), Roberston, Thompson, Marner, Kucherov, Vasy, Pasta, (Jack) Hughes, Connor, Tkachuk, Kaprizov, Ullmark (this season) or Ovi? Heck no. He isn't criminally underrated because literally anyone who has watched hockey over the past year.
What would be the package I'd expect for Petey? It would be a Matt Duchene/Jack Eichel comparable

It wouldn't be a nice conversation.

absolutely ludicrous

Ok well by that child like logic, sure. Even still you added like 3 pieces beyond an overpayment

He would be a great piece for this team and they are about the only team with the cap/assets to get him besides columbus

And where is the bad asset management exactly? the ufas?

Trading for a player that plays a position you are loaded at? That player will be a free agent in 2 years also at the same time as dahlin and power.

So yeah, what I said

What ufas? You traded Quinn, savoie and an unprotected 2023 1st

Loaded at? I am not sure about that but okay. Also slotted him on the wing. and at the time he is a free agent the sabres will have what? 40-50 mil in cap

Quinn + Savoie + 1st easily equal 40-80 some goals in a few years time at a price tag of less than $3mm.

Petterson will probably never reach 40-80 goals, and will be costing $10mm+

BUF would never do a deal like this and doesn't need to.

That's not how trades really work.

Huberdeau, Weegar and a first for Tkachuk. Two 100+ point players for another plus more. Petey is said 100 point player, look at his stats.

Yep. There's a reason why most people lauded that as the biggest blockbuster in a long time. Those kind of trades just don't happen much.

Petey is a great player, not gonna deny that, but he's never come remotely close to 100 points. That's not to say that he never will, he just never has.

Two top-10 picks + mid-1st + a top 2nd

Who in league history has ever gotten a return like that, let alone a "far better offer"? I mean, I can wait all day.

The only player I can come up with is Lindros and he was far superior to Petterson.

Quinn and Savoie are a joke, You want Pettersson and it probably starts with Owen Power, You've to pay to get a high end C like Elias Pettersson.

Umm, no they aren't a joke and no, I don't want Petterson and I value Power over Petterson. So no on all accounts.

The Sabres are perfectly fine with Tage (better than Petterson) and Cozens (projecting to be at least as good as Petterson, if not better and at a cheaper price tag).

Sorry that BUF fans even bring a trade like this up as a topic of discussion. It makes zero sense.

Savoie is no better than Kasper who was Adams true target. But Yzerman beat him to him. Sorry but if Pettersson gets moved that offer will be beaten.

Sorry, but I don't understand how you think he could command more than that. Please provide some evidence to back up your claim.

I mean Tkachuk, as noted above, a fellow 24-year-old at the time of the trade, one who actually did have a 100-point season to his name, netted an old Huberdeau with a season left on his deal (former #3OA), and an old Weegar with a season left on his deal, a 1st and a (former 3rd round) prospect.

In what world does Petterson command more than that?

Not sure what Kasper has anything to do with this discussion. Just because he was selected ahead of Savoie, doesn't really mean anything when discussing the merits of a trade like this.

VAN has zero cap space. To turn down 4 cheap quality assets for 1 is just bad asset management. Again, not like the Sabres or any other team would offer that much.

I mean, just imagine a team trading #8OA, #9OA, #16OA #36OA for #5OA. Makes zero sense.

NHL trade values don't actually line up to how good players are. Claude Giroux last year was 10 times the player Ben Chiarot was, and they both brought in basically the same thing in trades. No matter how good a player is, teams will talk themselves out of giving up hauls for them, hence why Eichel only got the package he did. Tkachuk is literally the only player in the last 10-15 years to get more than the ok to good roster player + prospect that isn't getting regular NHL time + 1st round pick package.

Someone with some common sense.

But, Eichel did get ok-good roster player, prospect that wasn't getting regular time and 1st and a 3rd <>2nd swap.

Coincidentally, Eichel was at .95 points/game at the time of the trade, which is exactly where Pettersson is.

Pettersson is only under contract for one more season, albeit with RFA rights, while Eichel still had a cost-controlled contract for 5 more years.
Obviously, Eichel had injury concerns attached.
I'm assuming Petey will sign for more than $10mm, though.

So, the Eichel trade package is a good one to model and I'm not really sure how VAN could get more than that.

1st round pick
Tuch (who has played better than Eichel)
Krebs (very promising player)
2nd round pick in exchange for a 3rd.

That's a good return. BUF fans are very happy about that trade. VAN should consider something similar.

Think about what you would want for Tage Thompson, and then add more because the Canucks would be the most poverty of poverty if Petey left

Exactly, they don't happen much because players like Pettersson don't get moved