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Philly needs to get rid of provorov

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Team: 2022-23 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 18, 2023
Published: Jan. 18, 2023
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The amount of real dollars on provorovs contract is way more than the cap hit for the next 2 yrs
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Jan. 18, 2023 at 4:46 p.m.
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They dont really need to trade Provy. The real dollars mean nothing the the flyers theyre one of the Wealthiest organizations and are literally own by Comcast
Jan. 18, 2023 at 4:57 p.m.
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No, it really doesnt

Respect doesn't have to go both ways?? Well, you're showing us who you are in this thread. Wow.
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Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:07 p.m.
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Respect doesn't have to go both ways?? Well, you're showing us who you are in this thread. Wow.


I don't need to respect homophobes, no. You really think every belief deserves respect?
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Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:14 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I don't need to respect homophobes, no. You really think every belief deserves respect?


Who are you calling a homophobe? See, that's your issue - you're labeling people without looking at the facts. That's disrespectful. As far as we know, Provorov has legitimate religious beliefs that preclude supporting certain causes. That's it.

You can't demand people respect your cause when you refuse to respect their beliefs.
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Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:21 p.m.
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Why because he protected Provorov's first amendment right of freedom of religion and speech?


No, because he threatened to bench other players for the same rights. That's a hypocrite
Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:25 p.m.
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No, because he threatened to bench other players for the same rights. That's a hypocrite


Whose religious opinion did he threaten to bench anyone over?
Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:27 p.m.
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Who are you calling a homophobe? See, that's your issue - you're labeling people without looking at the facts. That's disrespectful. As far as we know, Provorov has legitimate religious beliefs that preclude supporting certain causes. That's it.

You can't demand people respect your cause when you refuse to respect their beliefs.


It's not a cause, it's a minority group of people. Poverty, homelessness, cancer research, things you can fix are causes. You can't fix or choose homosexuality but you can fight for it to more accepted and respected like it should be.
Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:27 p.m.
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Who are you calling a homophobe? See, that's your issue - you're labeling people without looking at the facts. That's disrespectful. As far as we know, Provorov has legitimate religious beliefs that preclude supporting certain causes. That's it.

You can't demand people respect your cause when you refuse to respect their beliefs.


There are no legitimate reasons for being anti gay rights
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Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Dan_the_Man
Whose religious opinion did he threaten to bench anyone over?


Pretty much every religion is anti war, so theoretically speaking anyone who is religious or even non religious has the right to skip military appreciation night
Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:35 p.m.
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There are no legitimate reasons for being anti gay rights

Again, you're labeling someone without knowing the facts. Provorov never said anything hateful towards the LGBTQ+ community, so you have no basis for your comments.
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Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:36 p.m.
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There are no legitimate reasons for being anti gay rights


How about they already have every right every other Person living in the US already has So where's the need giving groups "special rights just legalizes the discrimination of non protected . Let's all live Dr. Kings Dream as I do every day.
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Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:38 p.m.
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Pretty much every religion is anti war, so theoretically speaking anyone who is religious or even non religious has the right to skip military appreciation night


History wasn't your strong subject in School clearly . Nothing has been the cause of more wars than religion throughout history.
Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:45 p.m.
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Again, you're labeling someone without knowing the facts. Provorov never said anything hateful towards the LGBTQ+ community, so you have no basis for your comments.


You are being intentionally disingenuous.
Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:45 p.m.
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History wasn't your strong subject in School clearly . Nothing has been the cause of more wars than religion throughout history.


I'm aware, that doesn't stop the fact that just about every religion is based around being a good person and loving everyone.

So as I said basically anyone should be able to sit out military appreciation night if this is the chosen road.
Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:46 p.m.
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How about they already have every right every other Person living in the US already has So where's the need giving groups "special rights just legalizes the discrimination of non protected . Let's all live Dr. Kings Dream as I do every day.


It's 2023. Embarrassing
Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:47 p.m.
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It's 2023. Embarrassing


Yes you are. How dare we. Live by the idea of judging people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin or sexuality or anything else. That's awful
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Jan. 18, 2023 at 6:24 p.m.
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It appears that the team and the NHL support his decision, so why would they suddenly want to trade him?


"Suddenly?"

He's been on the trade block for over a year. Do you not pay any attention to anything? lol
Jan. 18, 2023 at 6:25 p.m.
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why do they need to get rid of him?


Well, they've been looking to do so for about a year now...soooooo
Jan. 18, 2023 at 7:11 p.m.
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I'm aware, that doesn't stop the fact that just about every religion is based around being a good person and loving everyone.

So as I said basically anyone should be able to sit out military appreciation night if this is the chosen road.


Yes they Should but it would IMO make them a piece of garbage 🗑️
Jan. 18, 2023 at 8:40 p.m.
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Yes they Should but it would IMO make them a piece of garbage 🗑️


But Provorov protesting something that isn't a choice and is something that should be openly accepted in this society isn't a piece of garbage because his religion doesnt support homophobia?

Every religion is anti war, but they'd be a piece of **** to protest it, guy protests something against his religion but isn't a piece of ****.

Your opinion openly claims you as a homophobe 👏
Jan. 18, 2023 at 9:56 p.m.
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Oh well...it's about last night


Hate to break it to you but every one will stop talking about this in a week or two. No one talks about Deangelo anymore nor does anyone talk about Kane or Toews and the whole Kyle Beach situation. Heck I wouldn’t even be surprised if most NHL players don’t actually care and they’re just not trying to get media hate so they go with the flow.
Jan. 18, 2023 at 10:17 p.m.
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But Provorov protesting something that isn't a choice and is something that should be openly accepted in this society isn't a piece of garbage because his religion doesnt support homophobia?

Every religion is anti war, but they'd be a piece of **** to protest it, guy protests something against his religion but isn't a piece of ****.

Your opinion openly claims you as a homophobe 👏


Because I since you're making this personal A****** don't feel I need to celebrate it makes me homophobic is the dumbest most illogical statement you can possibly make.
Jan. 19, 2023 at 12:20 a.m.
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Hate to break it to you but every one will stop talking about this in a week or two. No one talks about Deangelo anymore nor does anyone talk about Kane or Toews and the whole Kyle Beach situation. Heck I wouldn’t even be surprised if most NHL players don’t actually care and they’re just not trying to get media hate so they go with the flow.


Which is absolutely true. Players do it because the league wants to show the fans how socially responsible they are, and both the players and the teams monetarily benefit from this positive corporate image.

Prorovov was true to his own religious beliefs and didn't say anything negative about the LGBTQ community. He just didn't want to be part of that specific dog and pony show.
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Jan. 19, 2023 at 6:12 a.m.
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Because I since you're making this personal A****** don't feel I need to celebrate it makes me homophobic is the dumbest most illogical statement you can possibly make.


Homophobes stand together, which you're doing by defending his actions. It's ok little guy, you just learned something new about yourself today, only difference it really makes is now you know you're a POS and so does anyone who reads this, no need to hide in the closet about it anymore
Jan. 19, 2023 at 7:23 a.m.
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Homophobes stand together, which you're doing by defending his actions. It's ok little guy, you just learned something new about yourself today, only difference it really makes is now you know you're a POS and so does anyone who reads this, no need to hide in the closet about it anymore
S***bags like you who have absolutely no clue a$$hole I don't agree with him playing neill however defend to my death his right to say i s***bag. The answer to speech you don't like is NEVER Censorship it's more speech you oppressing mother *****""
 
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